We have been using a product from Progress software - Apptivity that does a
good job of developing Java apps from a data centric point of view.  It can
use ODBC or JDBC (the native 400 one).  If you are interested in this, shoot
me a mail.



John Bussert
Swift Technologies, Inc.
847-289-8939 fax

> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> []On Behalf Of nina jones
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 7:42 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: ODBC vs Java
> > I work for a non profit organization that has a small F10. We
> may be forced
> > to upgrade by IBM to a Model 170 because they are ceasing
> support on V3R2.
> > The primary use of the F10 is to run Computer Guidance's CMS
> software. We
> > also have a need to develop a application that tracks our client's
> > property, incomes, demographics, and disabilites. This
> application consits
> > of 30 tables and 15 screens. All the users want a GUI
> interface. What are
> > the pros and cons of developing this application in Java vs Visual
> > Basic(with ODBC to 400)? Assume we have a Model 170 because I would not
> > attempt this with our current F10. Thanks for all of your help.
> it sounds like you may have more justification for the 170 that
> just ibm ceasing
> support.  the 170 does a much better job of the visual
> programming, or the client
> server apps.
> some questions to ask yourself:  is the application you have
> written already, or
> would you be doing it from scratch?  do you have basic
> experience?  what is your
> budget?
> if your application is already written, you can use visual rpg
> (either ibm's or
> asna's) to create the gui environment.  i haven't used ibm's, but
> asna's has a
> product called datagate that gives record level access to the
> as/400, and allows
> you to do chains, reads, calls directly to the as/400.
> if you are going totally from scratch, java may be your best bet.
>  that appears
> to be the future where ibm is going.  this would give you the
> opportunity to give
> users what they want, and learn something new for yourself.
> we looked at visual basic several years ago, (before deciding on
> asna's visual
> rpg) ans found it to be a powerful language.  we ended up going
> with the asna
> product because of the direct access to the as/400.
> nj

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