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Just a couple of points to ponder ... Using the internet and IP is the flavor of the day, but jokes like WWW means "World Wide Wait" did not come out of thin air. As usual, it depends. I don't know where you are at, but up here in the Puget Sound area of the Pacific Northwest, U.S.Worst will set you up a 56k frame relay, only to guarantee 28.8 @ $1,000 at each end install and about $60/month. They will also tell you that you can NOT do voice over frame relay while you are talking to them over a frame relay! ;-) Since you are talking about a remote office being 7 miles away, I'd like to share with you about how we solved a similar situation: The host site gets an ISDN/T1/T4 (whatever is needed for traffic) connection to a local ISP ... with static IP address ($125 install/$85/mo for 250 hours for ISDN @ 128k ... BTW 5 days * 4.33 weeks @ 9 hours per day = just shy of 195 hours ) ... and the remote site gets a $19.95/mo @ 56k dialup with a product like "Wingate" to act as a proxy server for their network or if more throughput is required they get their own ISDN router (with static IP address so you can filter Telnet) and hum right along. BTW, the local U.S.Worst has an "Office On-line" offering for about $85/mo for any business with less than 20 phone lines to obtain a 2 channel (64k each) ISDN and single POTS line. The POTS line can replace any voice/fax line you may already have in place. Which around here costs about $35/mo (taxes and all) for a commercial line just to get a dial tone. So if you can replace a $35 POTS line used for fax, your cost for 128k ISDN is $50/mo. Your branch office, with less than 20 phone lines, may be able to obtain a 128k ISDN connection for about $85/mo with the local telco plus another $85/mo for the local ISP to connect to your AS/400 @ 250 hrs/mo. Even a dumb program can, at most, send 1920 characters to replace an entire screen. That's 1920 bytes @ 8 bits = 15,360 bps or 15 of 128k per second. So you have to ask yourself, are more than 8.53 people hitting ENTER or someother full screen replacement per second? Now, this is not the only solution. The best solution will depend upon the local cost of available options and your need for up time. Around here we skipped over frame because the cost was the same as ISDN/mo and the guaranteed throughput was only 25% for frame vs ISDN. ISDN gave use a workable 9.6k POTS fax line in the package and as I mentioned before an single commercial line around here costs about $35/mo. Having said all that, now lets talk about digital PCS. Out here in the boonies we may get the latest about 2 years late, but the latest scuttlebutt around here is that as long as you are within spitting distance of a tower, you can have a two way communications with your ball-n-chain/400 and get paged QSYSOPR message AND enter a response! Not to mention digital remote office access. I love this country! Only in America. ;-} Now unless you cross a city/county boundary you may want to check out a dedicated line for SNA traffic. The 7 miles may mean 30 miles of station-to-station connection at $x/mile to the local telco per month and be cost prohibitive with the added cost of remote WS controllers. Now if the 7 miles does NOT cross any tariff boundary, you may be better off with a dedicated leased line. As with most solutions, it depends. James W. Kilgore email@James-W-Kilgore.com P.S. If you need a 25 word or less solution, with what info provided, I need a week. If you need a 250 word solution, I'm ready right now ;-) > > > > > We need to move about 45 people to some leased office space by 3/31/99. > > They will need connectivity to our existing Novell LAN/WAN and AS/400 > > RISC machine (not to mention existing voice telecomm equip.!). We > > currently have 2 Novell remotes connected over frame-relay coming into > > Novell NetWare SAA gateways to access AS/400. This leased office space > > is about 7 miles from corporate. What are our options? We'd like to > > keep it as simple as possible due to time constraint. Also, since our > > Customer Service department will be one of the groups moving, reliable > > access is key. Reviewing dedicated voice/data T-1s, voice over data for > > T-1/frame, etc. > > > > Any and all ideas welcome! > > > +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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