Re: AS/400 Gasping For Air ?? -- MIDRANGE-L

Seems to me that  for many  years Gartner has been
forecasting an NT  AS/400  shoot out. The winner to be determined
by some points Gartner makes at that  time.

What I would like to hear  form the list  and IBM AS/400 division is the
 counter points.  Silence has its' own connotations.
Regards,

Glenn
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At 09:09 AM 1/4/99 -0500, Mike Crump wrote:
>This is not the first time the Gartner Group has predicted the demise of
>the AS/400.  The only reason this one may have some credence is that it is
>based on application software availability.  Of course, it also assumes
>that the world continues as it does today.  I don't know if anyone has ever
>audited their predictions.  My personal opinion is that they ought to stick
>with studies and not predictions.
>
>The article was ok.  The main problem was that all 'negative' positions
>were either backed up by 'statistics' (graphs to those that believe them)
>and specific events (Baan and Peoplesoft)  whereas all the 'positive'
>positions were articles (count them, two) published in InfoWorld.  Was the
>article balanced?  No way.  Negative AS/400 aspects outnumbered positive
>when chances are, as John pointed out, they perhaps should not be.  Did she
>'attempt' to balance it?  Maybe.  As far as I can tell she intended to
>write a negative article and that's what she did.  I don't necessarily call
>that fair.  But what else is the 'free press' good for?
>
>The only fair thing the article represented was the Gartner Group report.
>There was one thing she did get absolutely right, "a research company that
>sometimes seems to be as interested in shaping trends as in spotting them".
>Perhaps we can say the same about others.
>
>This article is not the basis for the following conclusion. It is based on
>InfoWorld's and Ms. Reed's past actions.  I can guarantee you that they
>don't know how to spell AS/400.  They wouldn't know one if it up and bit
>them.......somewhere.  Ed Scannell and Maggie Biggs are the two exceptions.
>InfoWorld's world (bias) revolves around Microsoft, Oracle, HP, and such
>others.
>
>Respectfully,
>
>Mike Crump
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>Roger,
>On a rare note;  I disagree with your assessments.   If she really
>wanted to "add balance to the article"  She might have said at least
>something about the "Double Digit" sales for something like 4 or 5 quarters
>in a row.  She didn't show the other side of the argument, she only
>alluded to it by mentioning Maggie's and Ed Scannell's articles.
>
>She didn't mention the recent AS/400 forum that was sponsered by IW,
>and the opinions expressed there.(BTW, did you contribute ?)
>
>She Might have even mentioned the major ERP packages the do run on the
>AS/400.
>She only highlighted the one survey by Gartner that supports (I believe)
>her personal views.
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