Re: Dropping of Novell on IPCS. -- MIDRANGE-L

Yes, my ignorance on Novell is pretty high, but I'd have to think hard about 
why I would want to install a NEW Novell system.  What is IBM's market reason 
for putting Novell on the IPCS?  1)  New installations, 2)  Migrations.

Why would anyone want a NEW Novell system, IPCS or otherwise?  Feel free to add 
any reasons, or why the excuses are invalid.
a)  File sharing.  Use NETSERVER instead.  Part of OS/400 V4R3.  Client Access 
not required.
b)  Print sharing.  Use LAN printers or NETSERVER.
c)  GroupWise email.  Use Notes.

Why migrate from a PC based Novell server to an IPCS based Novell server?
a)  Easier administration.  Wrong.  1)  You still have to know Novell.  2)  
You'd probably have to purchase and learn ADSTAR for backup purposes if you 
ever want to restore a single file from the IPCS.  If not ADSTAR then some PC 
based package running on it's own server.
b)  Faster.  The IPCS' will never keep up with the flood of PC products coming 
out on the market for processor performance.  The disk, even with RAID 5 on the 
PC ain't a bad performer either.

Stop comparing Novell to NT if you hate NT so bad.  Start comparing Novell to 
OS/400.  I say if you want to go to an IPCS why not go to Native OS/400 and 
skip the Novell altogether?  This same logic is being applied to trying to run 
Domino on the IPCS.  I hated Domino on the IPCS and threw in a NT server to run 
it on instead.  I am going to Domino on Native 400 and like that.






CLEWIS@IQUEST.NET on 10/13/98 02:23:38 PM
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Either way, I think it SUCKS - NT Server is WAY behind NDS and WHAT's new - 
Internet Explorer lags behind Netscape. MS gets RIDICULOUS breaks, and
NOT because of product superiority but because of perceived market share, blah, 
blah, blah...
Have a hard time seeing why IBM would dump NDS. Understand why they want to run 
NT Server, but KEEP NDS (unless of course there is no interest in
running NDS on the IPCS from customers. If THAT's the case it's surprising that 
there is that big a demand for NT on the IPCS. I would THINK the
problem is in getting LAN folks to give up the "stand alone" servers for the 
IPCS whether it's NDS or NT Server....  And that is just a matter of
IBM doing the advertising, etc. to convince folks !

Chuck

Jeffrey M. Silberberg wrote:

> Ops,
>
>         I think I left the good fingers upstairs this morning.  V4R3 not
> R2 is the currently announced last release..
>
>         JMS
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 bmegenity@ruskin.com wrote:
>
> > I thought I read somewhere (please don't ask me where) that V4R3 was the 
>last to support Novell AND OS/2 on IPCS. Am I getting mixed up again?
> >
> > Bill Megenity             bmegenity@ruskin.com            twinstar@sound.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MIME :silbrbrg@netcom.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 9:51 AM
> > To:   johnearl@toolnet.com
> > Subject:      Re: Random thoughts from COMMON
> >
> >
> >  So let me get this right. The IPCS will not support Novell after V4R2
> > because Novell is no longer going to have an OS/2 based component.  But
> > IBM is porting the AIX OS to the IPCS ?  Hum, what is it's OS/2 component ??
> >
> >       JMS
> >
> > On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, John Earl wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > mcrump@ballfoster.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > 3.) Frank Soltis claimed that the AS/400 can run any AIX application 
>today
> > > > without any modifications and that most UNIX applications fall into this
> > > > category.  However, it will look and feel like a UNIX application so IBM
> > > > encourages the vendor to make the app.  look like an AS/400 application.
> > > > He thinks they can essentially be UNIX and essentially eliminate 
>'porting'.
> > > > Along with this they think they can run most UNIX applications faster 
>than
> > > > similar UNIX machines.....another interesting dilemna.  Similar issues
> > > > revolving around NT.......
> > >
> > > There was recently a post out on comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc where an IBM'er 
>claimed
> > > that IBM had AIX running on the IPCS.  I was able to confirm this at 
>common... it
> > > was done for a bid, but IBM didn't get the bid.  Now it's a solution in 
>search of
> > > an application - same as the alleged laptop/400
> > >
> > > jte
> > >
> > > --
> > > John Earl   PowerTech Toolworks
> > > johnearl@toolnet.com  www.toolnet.com
> > > 253-858-7388   206-575-0711
> > > PowerLock Network Security for the AS/400
> > > --
> > >
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