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  • Subject: RE: Remote Communication - HELP!
  • From: "Pytel, Alexei" <pytela1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:00:13 +0100


It should work, I've done it couple of times to communicate to remote
ATM device attached to remote AS/400 system.

I have to apologize for a mistake in my previous note. It should read
like this:

- AS/400#2 will have 3270 (LU 2) device description downstream to
AS/400#1 (configuration should be similar to what is now on AS/400#1)
- AS/400#1 will have *SNPT *UP device description upstream to AS/400#2
and *SNPT *DOWN device description downstream to remote system.

Additional trick is that of course, controller type on AS/400#1 will
have to be different - you are absolutely correct that SNPT will not
work for remote work station controller type. But this is not needed in
this case.
AS/400#2 has to think that remote controller, where 3270 device is
attached, is a remote workstation controller (so there should be a
separate controller description on AS/400#2 for AS/400#1 and it has to
be remote work station controller. AS/400 does support this type of
connection).
For AS/400#1 exact type of controller is not important as soon as it is
PU type 2.0 SNA node.

Important thing here is that these are two different things:
-       controller (PU) type as it is used by SNA layer of AS/400. In
our case we need PU type 2 on both levels
-       AS/400 controller type - it can be remote workstation
controller, APPC controller, finance controller etc - as it is used by
other functions on AS/400. They all can be PU type 2 controllers with
some specific characteristics.

To say it in different terms - AS/400 controller description should be
of specific type only on the AS/400 which uses remote node for some
specific purpose.
For all other AS/400s involved any PU type 2 controller will do (say
3174 or 3274 type).

Hope I did not increase confusion still more...

                Best regards,
                         
                  Alexei Pytel




        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Tim McCarthy [SMTP:twmac@mindspring.com]
        Sent:   Friday, June 12, 1998 2:33 PM
        To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
        Subject:        RE: Remote Communication - HELP!


        Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think using SNPT will work
with a
        remote work station controller. If the case was AS/400 users or
RJE type
        jobs running on the mainframe then you'd be O.K. Since this is a
batch job
        I'd need to ask how it's working and what it does. If you could
switch to a
        host controller and say a SNUF device you could still start the
job (on the
        second AS/400) from the mainframe, but it would be the mainframe
host
        controlling the session rather than the other way around.

        At 09:45 AM 6/12/98 +0100, you wrote:
        >
        >You can try a feature called SNA Passthrough.
        >It will do exactly what you want:
        > - AS/400#2 will have *SNPT device description downstream to
AS/400#1.
        >- AS/400#1 will have *SNPT device description upstream to
AS/400#2 and
        >3270 (LU 2) device description downstream to remote system.
        >
        >AS/400#2 will establish and control the session, while AS/400#1
will
        >essentially pass all session traffic unchanged from AS/400#2
down to
        >remote system.
        >
        >Instructions for setup and sample configurations can be found
in "AS/400
        >Remote Workstation Guide".
        >
        >Hope this will help.
        >
        >
        >               Best regards,
        >                        
        >                 Alexei Pytel
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >       -----Original Message-----
        >       From:   Jeff Carey [SMTP:jeffreycarey@usa.net]
        >       Sent:   Friday, June 12, 1998 12:41 AM
        >       To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
        >       Subject:        Re: Remote Communication - HELP!
        >
        >       Here is the current situation:
        >
        >       AS/400 #1 connected to a SDLC line to remote mainframe
        >       Batch job on AS/400 #1 one uses 3277 devices to pass
data back
        >and forth with
        >       mainframe. These 3277 devices hang off of a 3274 ctld
that in
        >turn hangs off the
        >       SDLC lind.
        >
        >       What we want:
        >       AS/400 #2 currently attached to AS/400 #1 over TR LAN.
        >       Want to move batch job to AS/400 #2, but keep physical
        >connection to mainframe on
        >       AS/400 #1.
        >
        >       No one on AS/400 #1 will need to access the mainframe
after the
        >application is
        >       moved.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >       Carl Galgano wrote:
        >
        >       > If I understand your question (you want to use a line
        >description from one
        >       > AS400 and a controller and device from another AS400,
both on
        >the same
        >       > LAN/WAN and have the controller connect to the line),
the
        >answer is NO.
        >       > However, there are usually more that one way to skin a
cat, so
        >exactly what
        >       > are you trying to do, if you are trying to access data
across
        >the line,
        >       > perhaps you could use the existing AS400 for the
physical
        >link, and use
        >       > something like DDM to have the data actually appear on
the new
        >AS400.  Some
        >       > more details might be helpful.
        >       > HTH,
        >       > Carl
        >       >
        >       > At 10:51 AM 6/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
        >       > >We need to sole a problem - we have an AS/400 with an
SDLC
        >link to a
        >       > credit card
        >       > >service - this line has a 3274 ctld attached to it,
and the
        >controller has
        >       > two
        >       > >3277 display sessions attached to it.
        >       > >
        >       > >Now we need to move the application using thast line
to
        >another AS/400 on
        >       > our LAN
        >       > >(but not at the same location, so I can't just change
the
        >physical connection
        >       > >(RS232 into a modem into a leased line).
        >       > >
        >       > >Is there a way for me to create a ctld and devd on
the new
        >AS/400, and
        >       > have them
        >       > >communicate over the SDLC line on the current AS/400?
        >       > >
        >       > >
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