RE: User profile creation

[Vernon Hamberg <hambergv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Steve

At 03:03 PM 5/1/1998 -0800, you wrote:
>Bruce,
>you mean it the interest of looking out for us, functionality has
>been restricted ?
>I've tried the Operations Navigator and found it slow and cumbersome.
>Finding out that I cannot use it for common tasks means I can't see
>any reason to use it.
>
> - Steve Cotes
>
>> ----------
>> From:        bvining@vnet.ibm.com[SMTP:bvining@vnet.ibm.com]
>> Sent:        Friday, May 01, 1998 5:54 AM
>> To:  MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
>> Subject:     User profile creation
>> 
>> Gary,
>> 
>> From the security team:
>> 
>> Within Operations Navigator, there is a conscious attempt to direct
>> users
>> in a different direction than they may have used thru the traditional
>> command interface.  While security used to advocate having the group
>> profile own all objects for maintenance purposes, they are now leaning
>> toward having the user keep ownership and give proper authorization to
>> the group.  This change is due to the exposures of having all members
>> of
>> a group have ownership of all objects; and due to group profiles
>> becoming
>> full due to the number of owned objects.  They now advocate having an
>> application owner user profile who's only purpose is to own the
>> application programs and files, and who's authority can be adopted if
>> needed from within the application.
>> 
>> Along the same lines, Operations Navigator also has set the group
>> interface such that you cannot assign a password or any other
>> information
>> associated with signing on to the system.  You can only set the
>> authority related information for the group (special authorities and
>> members in the group).
>> 
>> Bruce
>> 
>> >
>> >How can I change the owner parameter to *GRPPRF in CA Operations
>> >Navigator when I create a user profile?  I just started adding new
>> users
>> >this way.
>> >
>> >Gary Feinstein
>> >AS/400 System Administrator
>> >Planet Hollywood International Inc.
>> >
>> 

I agree that Operations Navigator lacks in a number of ways. As just one
example, consider WRKSPLF on the 400. There you can out a 2 on any number
of spooled files, enter the options you want to change ONE TIME on the
command line, and the changes are applied to ALL selected items. On the
other hand, if you have different changes to make per file, you press F4
and you can do it one by one.

In Operations Navigator, OTOH, you can make multiple selections, and you
can right-click to get the popup where you take the change option—well,
actually, the Properties option. But then you get a window for EACH file.
You have no option of entering changes that apply to all. This is really a
pain and makes ON unusable for common tasks, as far as I'm concerned. And I
know it does not have to be this way. It looks like the designer of ON had
never worked on the 400's "useless" green-screen interface.

Boy, that felt good! I've wanted to yell about this for a long time!

We need a 'Properties for All' option on the popup. PLEASE! Otherwise, I
will _not_ use ON hardly at all.

Cheers

Vernon Hamberg
Systems Software Programmer
Old Republic National Title Insurance Company
400 Second Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN  55401-2499
(612) 371-1111 x480


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