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Hank, Ooooooh, GOTTA <<Begin Soapbox Mode>>! In a message dated 97-10-18 00:39:22 EDT, you write: > In the past few years, I've been able to make a chunk of money in one aspect > of our consulting practice - cleaning up the mess left by employees at a site > where they made problems, and moved on. You know the type. They take all the > training. They write stuff on the fly. No documentation. No change control. > They are the only ones who can fix the stuff, and all hell breaks out when > they move on to a place that pays them more to do even more damage. I do, indeed, know the type. Many of them are now making large $ in consulting. Mercenaries that would have problems finding a job in the same _STATE_ under normal cirmcumstances, but are making a _KILLING_ due to their "years of experience" in the current Y2K/400 talent shortage environment. > This isn't bad enough. I just discovered that two of these individuals - the > worst offenders in my opinion - just found new employment. At IBM. Amazing, given that IBM just announced another round of employee buyouts. Why didn't IBM learn their lesson the first time? In the last round, with the exception of the highly regarded people in core development areas (Rochester, et al), IBM lost almost every decent person they had that dealt with customers! Anyone with experience in dealing with customers and a little self-esteem either took their buyout money and started their own consulting business, or went to work for another major vendor in the IBM arena. I know of a couple of local ex-IBMers that formed their own businesses after the last buyout, and were being BEGGED by IBM to come back a year (or less) later. Unfortunately, their salary demands no longer fit within the rigid MIN/MEAN/MAX scale that IBM (and most other large corporations) uses. Consulting suited them well, especially when IBM had nobody to offer in competition. IBM says that they're concentrating on manufacturing areas this time. We'll see... > At first I was horrified. Does IBM not check work histories any more? Are > they scraping the bottom of the barrel just to get back bodies to replace all > that talent they lost during the downsizing? What's to become of the > customers that these guys service? I foresaw multiple catastrophes at > multiple locations. Hank, _NOBODY_ in the United States can check work histories any more. Former employers are too afraid of defamation lawsuits to provide references other than "yeah, he/she worked here at one point". On the up side, people discharged due to office politics can now get a decent job in a reasonable period of time. On the down side, idiots can go to work for IBM (checked out sales and marketing lately ;-)?). Again, IBM is 2nd round downsizing, so they're not looking to "get back bodies". Geeze, I just realized that it's been 5 or more years since round 1! What's to become of the customers that these guys service, will multiple catastrophes occur? IBM _DOESN'T CARE_! I take the latter back. There are people _within_ IBM that will care, but the perception of the customers will be that IBM doesn't care (happened the last time). IBM doesn't seem to realize that the competence of their sales rep's and technical personnel in any given area, especially those that deal directly with customers, is directly proportional to the number of installed systems (with the exception of Mainframes, whose support personnel are already more than adequate at the customer site). I would almost bet a year's salary that, were IBM were to perform some market research, they would find that the areas with the most installed AS/400's also had the highest satisfaction rating with their IBM sales rep and technical personnel. These areas wouldn't have a sales rep that said "Oh yeah, had I told you about that when you ordered, it would have been free. Since I didn't, you now owe $15K for it." Lou and the Board of Directors are out of touch. Maximizing shareholder value is their goal, but isn't the blind pursuit of _THAT_ what put the US deficit where it is now, nearly toasted the US automobile industry, and what led to corporate downsizing and the placement of manufacturing facilities overseas in the first place? Placing profits above product (whether machined or intellectual) will _ALWAYS_ produce a negative outcome. Offering a buyout to one person and not another would open IBM up to a myriad of lawsuits, but I guess we can't expect them to just discharge the people that they don't need anymore either -- corporate responsibility is a vanishing trait, and we can only be glad that IBM stayed out of the fray for as long as they did. <<snip>> <<End Soapbox Mode>> Now if IBM would just practice a little more discretion in their hiring practices... Dean Asmussen Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc. Fuquay-Varina, NC USA E-Mail: DAsmussen@AOL.COM "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -- Sir Winston Churchill +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to "MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com". | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MAJORDOMO@midrange.com | and specify 'unsubscribe MIDRANGE-L' in the body of your message. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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