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Howard, In a message dated 97-09-16 14:28:46 EDT, you write: > If you dont trust your programmers and give them some sense of your > confidence > in them, they will soon be working for your competitors. True, but if we let them run amok they could cost us more in a day than they would earn for us in a YEAR! Heck, _I've_ accidentally deleted files/programs that I thought were in MY library but instead were in higher-order libraries for development and prototype. At these levels, the objects were easily replaceable. In production, I would have shut down the largest plant of its kind in the WORLD for almost a day! When your production backups are taken over an hour's drive away every morning by an archival service, it's no small matter to restore data files. It takes an hour or so for the tapes to be located by the service, then you have to wait for an available delivery driver, then another hour to bring the tapes back, then who knows how long for someone in Operations to be available to restore it. The latter only IF objects aren't locked that require another hour or so to get all 300 users off the system! EVERYONE makes mistakes (well -- I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken). We have an obligation as IS personnel to minimize the impact of those mistakes on production data and programs. Restricting developer access to production data/programs is only one, but an integral, part of this. I realize that on small /400's this is often not a large issue. Heck, I used to specialize in small systems. But the AS/400 has grown exponentially and precautions MUST be taken. If you've ever been on a shop floor and watched 100 hourly employees sit down SIMULTANEOUSLY when a router went down, you'd rapidly grasp the importance of keeping a tight grip on who affects performance of production programs. I'm all for restricting developer access, as long as it's not just a wholesale removal of command line access... JMHO, Dean Asmussen Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc. Fuquay-Varina, NC USA E-Mail: DAsmussen@AOL.COM "Let us be thankful for the fools. But for them the rest of us could not succeed." --(Mark Twain) +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to "MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com". | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MAJORDOMO@midrange.com | and specify 'unsubscribe MIDRANGE-L' in the body of your message. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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