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We have just recently completed installing Aldon CMS product at our site. The following is a (admittedly long) synopsis of our experiences. DISCLAIMER: I have no connection/financial interest/relationship with Aldon Computer Group beyond being a customer. For some background, our shop runs vendor purchased software with extensive MIS modifications at 12 remote sites. We also have a number of smaller in-house developed apps. Each remote site, to varying degrees, also has site specific changes to the vendor code as well as in house stuff. <Begin CMS review> - CMS is a good product: relatively easy to install & pretty flexible in terms of what you can do, supporting multiple releases of an app, achieving, object level auditing, object distribution, etc. Aldon tech support has also been very responsive when we've had a problem. The hard part during initial install was getting all our apps cleaned up so's Aldon would work with 'em - primarily finding the correct source for every pgm (a real treat when the vendor doesn't even have the right source anymore!). - Aldon "gotchas" are relatively few, but they do exist - Job logs tend to be cryptic when a compile or promote fails - all you see is a message about "Call to Aldon pgm XXXX failed" but the WHY it failed isn't there. - Aldon's not really good w/PF-LF relationships. If you check out an LF without checking out the associated PF, an EMPTY copy of the PF goes into your development library. This leads to head scratching when a developer attempts to test a new pgm using an LF pointing to an empty file. - Aldon's kind of picky about AS/400 authorities. We have a number of sites where a senior developer also wears the SECOFR hat. Aldon doesn't like people w/SECOFR authority doing remote promotions. One also has to be careful about matching authorities during remote development - if the actual coding occurs on a remote system, the developer has a user profile on both the local box as well as the central "Aldon" box. If the authority on the remote object is too restrictive, Aldon can't bring it back to promote it into it's release hierarchy. - Aldon requires a single thread release path for any application defined in it. Thus, we had to really juggle to get our support environment set up, mostly the site specific changes. A plain vanilla Aldon set up would have us create a base library, a vendor change library, a corporate change library, and 12 separate site change libraries for each of the 20 odd vendor applications we support. When you realize that (in most cases) 5 or 6 vendor apps work in concert, each needing AT LEAST 4 or 5 Aldon libraries to be in the LIBL, you can see that we filled up the 25 available slots pretty quickly, especially during QA testing. What Aldon needs is the ability to specify a given "release" or "application" as a child to many other releases - sadly, you can't really do that. - The REALLY hard part (not related specifically to Aldon, but a general "start from scratch" CMS project comment) was getting buy in from all our developers (both in our corporate offices as well as remotely.) Our new setup is that all source code is centrally located and any changes at any given site(s) must but checked out and promoted through Aldon. No restrictions on what changes can be made - just log 'em into Aldon. Despite this, for some reason, people feel "naked" when they can't just bop in, change a pgm, and bop out without telling anyone about it. The objections were voiced (of course) as "What if it's 2:00 AM and the corporate 400 is down?", but since we bent over backwards to provide source access backups (via an RS/600, E-MAIL, AND/OR on site tape achieves), I suspect the real objection was simply "I don't have a copy of the source immediately at hand anymore!" Upshot: I don't know how "locked down" your client's looking to make their shop, but people will fight any perceived "restriction" tooth and nail, saying "Aldon hampers my job performance" when it's really "Policies enforced via Aldon hamper my ability to anything I #%@$ well please any time I want" - which, of course, is the whole point of change management to begin with. Be prepared to be kind of unpopular! >>> Carl Galgano <cgalgano@ediconsulting.com> 07/23/97 03:40pm >>> One of my clients called me today looking for a recomendation on Aldon's CMS software. I only have experience with SoftLandings's Turnover so I can not give them any hands on eval. Can anyone out there give me the goods and bads (if any) on this software. TIA Carl Carl J. Galgano cgalgano@ediconsulting.com EDI Consulting Services, Inc. 540 Powder Springs Street Suite C19 Marietta, GA 30064 770-422-2995 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This is the Midrange System Mailing List! To submit a new message, * * send your mail to "MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com". To unsubscribe from * * this list send email to MAJORDOMO@midrange.com and specify * * 'unsubscribe MIDRANGE-L' in the body of your message. Questions * * should be directed to the list owner / operator: david@midrange.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * umidr * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This is the Midrange System Mailing List! To submit a new message, * * send your mail to "MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com". 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