Re: Future of *M36 -- MIDRANGE-L

boothm@earth.goddard.edu wrote:
> 
> Is this enough machine to replace an old Sys/36, model 5362 that has about
> 12 to 15 devices and is still under maintenance?

The catch with the Base model 150 is that it supports only 7 twinax
addresses.
The growth model 150 supports 14 addresses, has a faster processor, and
comes with 64MB of memory instead of 32MB.  Price is US$ 10,500 (again,
you NEED a UPS).
Note that the model 150's come with a SINGLE 4GB disk - so disk
contention can be an issue for some users/applications (you can add
extra 4GB disks up to a maximum of 4).

If you need more that 14 twinax addresses (and you can't get around the
limitation with passthru or Tokenring/Ethernet connections), you would
need to look at the 9402 Model 400  Base model with 2130 processor has a
maximum OS/400 license charge of 5 users.  A 400-2130 Entry Package with 
64MB RAM, 8 port Twinax expansion, 2.5GB 1/4" tape (about 3.5GB with
compression), & a SINGLE 1967MB disk and the BasePak software (OS/400,
Query, SQL, CA/400) is US$ 16,043.  That price includes the US$3500 for
ValuePak software, and US$ 848 for a BEST Fortress 675va UPS.

For those who asked about performance:
Model                 RPR (old) rating   CPW (new) V3R7 (if RISC) rating
AS/400 9404 B10                 1.0                 2.9
            F10                 3.4                 9.6
            F25                 4.8                13.7
AS/400 9401 150 Twinax (0181)   n/a                10.9 **
            150 Twinax (0182)   n/a                10.9 **
AS/400 9402 400-2130            4.1                13.8
            400-2131            6.1                20.6
            400-2132            8.7                27.0
            400-2133           10.9                33.3

** The 150 performance rating may limited by DASD performance & 96MB
memory maximum.  (more disk arms would help).
Unrestrained CPW rating is 27.0 for the 0181, and 33.3 for the 0182.



This is from the 150 announcement letter:



DESCRIPTION

AS/400 Advanced Entry Model 150 Hardware/Software Packages

Capacity Summary

                                   Twinax    Twinax   Server   Server
                                   Entry     Growth   Entry    Growth
                                   (0181)    (0182)   (0183)   (0184)
                                   ------    ------   ------   ------
Packages                           BasePaK   BasePak  BasePak  BasePak
Performance
   CPW Rating (4)                  10.9       (5)     10.9       (5)
Main Storage (MB)
   Minimum/Maximum                 32/96     64/96    32/96    64/96
DASD Storage (GB)
   Minimum                         4.194     4.194    4.194    4.194
   Total DASD                      16.7      16.7     16.7     16.7
Tape and Internal Optional
Attachments (Max/System)
   1/4-Inch Cartridge Tape           1         1        1        1
   CD-ROM                            1         1        1        1
Physical Packaging
   PCI I/O Card Slots (1)            5         5        5        5
   Integrated PC Server and
   Bridge Card slots                 2         2        2        2
Workstation Attach (Max)
   Twinaxial Controllers             1         1       0/1      0/1
   Twinaxial Devices                 7        14       0 Std    0 Std
                                                       7 Opt   14 Opt
Communication Lines (Max)            5         5        5 (3)    5 (3)
Integrated PC Server                0/1       0/1      0/1       1
LAN IOA (2)                         0/2       0/2      1/2      1/2
   Integrated PC Server LAN (Max)    2         2        2        2
   MFIOP LAN (Max)                   1         1        1        1

Notes:

 1   Two slots are reserved for Integrated PC Server.  Three are driven
     by the MFIOP


 2   A maximum of one LAN can be driven off MFIOP, none if Integrated
     PC Server installed


 3   Six lines total.  One is dedicated to client/access console


 4   For environments unconstrained by memory or DASD,
     the CPW values below may be achievable.

     The Commercial Processing Workload (CPW) benchmark is a way to show
     the total system performance capacity in a traditional commercial
     processing environment. Due to the maximum memory requirements of
     CPW, the systems with the Growth processor (as in
     Packages 0182 and 0184) will receive the same CPW rating as systems
     with the Entry processor.  Using other workloads, e.g., some
     client/server environments where processing demands are higher, the
     Growth processor can improve throughput over
     the Entry processor.


The CPW of a system
without any memory or DASD constraints could be:
 Packages                       Entry       Growth
                                0181/0183   0182/0184/0185
                                -------     --------------
 Unconstrained
 CPW Rating                       27.0        33.3

  


> In <199705302101.RAA00172@mailserver.ttec.com>, on 05/30/97
>    at 05:01 PM, Mark Lazarus <mlazarus@ttec.com> said:
> 
> #>Under V3R7 the Model 150 also supports *M36.


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