I had thought that Australia and NZ had been holdouts, but just barely...sad to hear of them joining the trend...

I would ad to your "soft" subjects, "nix" subjects...and appropriately the databases that run on them...

linux/mysql/php/perl and not to be forgotten, oracle, are indeed formidable competition that it appears that some vendors are conceding to, in action if not in official statement.

Futher what's driving this migrational pattern is where the major software product vendors are taking their products. i/DB2 is not high of alot of their hit lists for platforms and databases to develop with... Anyone remember the fiasco with Lawson not too many years ago??? If you've been living under a rock, there was a period of time when Lawson told their iseries clients (who were woefully behind the unix platform in terms of functionality) that if they wanted the newest latest and greatest functions, they needed to convert to AIX or other dialect of unix... Somers got a little pissed about that and had a come to Jesus meeting with Lawson...but my more than ample gutt tells me that it was only a short term stopgap...

Perhaps we can get Dick Cheney to go penguin hunting instead of dove for a while.... :)

Don in DC

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Hi Alan,

My understanding is that the decline extends to Australia and New Zealand.
I suspect Japan too but I have nothing to back that up.  You are quite
correct in saying that it affects all of the tech subjects.  Kids entering
school are just looking for the "soft" subjects.

You are also correct in that it does not affect India, China, Korea, etc.
Losing almost all of our high tech manufacturing to Asia should have sounded
a warning that we needed to pay more attention to the future and less to the
profits of the last quarter but ...

Perhaps as scary if not more so is the loss of women in the tech fields -
this week's InfoWorld (Jan 29th) ran a couple of stories on the topic - the
headline of one being "Why Are Women Exiting IT?".  The other one
interestingly discusses initiatives by IBM and Cisco to attract women into
the field.

Jon Paris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan- [mailto:steelville@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 2:57 PM
> To: Jon Paris
> Cc: info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; midrange-jobs@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Midrange Jobs National Discussion
> A good point about all the science subjects, Jon, and
> presumably the other tech subjects too.
> But I'll "bet donuts to dollars" that the tendency is NOT
> true outside of the United States and maybe Europe. .....
> --Alan

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