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And the press is trying to make it sound like your credit card number is
grabbed "off the wire"; everyone is so worried about SSL and all that other
stuff, and if anyone REALLY thinks about it, the odds of someone (other than
espionage folks) getting any useful information that way is very low. The
true reports from the security rags point out that the MAJOR problem is
poorly secured backend systems. The folks that have managed to run of with
thousands and 10's of thousands of credit card numbers did NOT use a Sniffer
to do this. They penetrated the back end systems and made off with the
entire file(s) containing this information. The cases where this has
happened have id'd both insiders, former employees and yes, hackers from the
outside. But the majority were the former two...

-----Original Message-----
From: mi400-admin@midrange.com [mailto:mi400-admin@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of Tom Liotta
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:09 PM
To: mi400@midrange.com
Subject: Re: 80% external? (was RE: [MI400] Beginner question re:
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"Leif Svalgaard" <leif@leif.org> wrote:

>From: Tom Liotta <qsrvbas@netscape.net>
>> > > 80% of all computer crimes are inside jobs.
>> > This being true,
>
>> Hmmm... let's say "This being accepted as true,...".
>> Nobody knows and nobody CAN know.
>
>John Earl told me :-)

Ah, ummm... then I'll retract my assertion! :-)

Tom Liotta

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