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Yes you can select any one you want. I was looking at the visa network side. Where they cannot transmit pin numbers where you can read them. They must be encrypted with DES and a variant against an XOR with a Master key and an Communication key to derive the pin number from its encrypted state. This is what I got lost with. I found the encrypt program which does DES very well, and the Xor working, with the convert hex to character and back looks like all the pieces I need to do it. Now I need to find the order it is done. I know there are a lot smarter people on this listing than me, where I thought someone has ventured where no man has gone before. Before I kill what few brain cells I have left trying to figure this out, I was lookin' and askin' if someone has blazed this trail before. It has been awful quiet, so I do not think this sparks interest like fast400. Interesting enough one of IBM's answer to Fast400 is their Green Peace, Green Space or Green somethin' promotion. Harry
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