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I didn't have time to do all combinations, but a system-state program creating a permanent space with CRTSP does in fact NOT create a journal entry. This is news to me. I'm running (as always) at level 50. Aren't you? :-) Quoting Steve G: I think it has something to do with the fact that the DOD standards for C2 security require complete auditing of security authority, including its transfer between users. Security authority is in the pointer. Therefore the creation of permanent space objects would violate this principle. --- again, wouldn't that be true for system-state programs as well? I don't get it.
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