Re: 11 reasons for PowerPc assembler collaboration project -- MI400

It'will be very interesting. Here is to learn ...
I have 2 questions:
1. How I can any object : for example *pgm, *file on system with MI 
instructions.
2. What the pointer PTRDO?
If anyone have any examples  - please show me ...
Sincerely, Andrew.


>From: "Steve Richter" <srichter@AutoCoder.com>
>Reply-To: MI400@midrange.com
>To: "mi mail list" <MI400@midrange.com>
>Subject: 11 reasons for PowerPc assembler collaboration project
>Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:37:45 -0400
>
>Here are 11 reasons in favor of a web based collaborative project to write 
>an iSeries PowerPc compiler.
>
>The compiler would translate MI code into PowerPc assembler code.  The 
>resulting code would somehow be placed in a collection of spaces that are 
>somehow made to look like a pgm object. The code in this pgm looking object 
>would be run just like any other pgm on the system.
>
>I dont know if this is technically possible and my interest in the idea is 
>simply to learn more about the system internals.
>
>Here are the reasons:
>
>
>1. Excellent way to learn more about system internals. Even if a PowerPc 
>compiler is technically not possible, learning the reasons why would 
>increase the knowledge of the internals of the system.
>
>2. Chance to learn the power pc assembler language. The power pc is used on 
>other platforms and is a modern processor. So learning it has portable 
>value.
>
>3. Makes MI more interesting.  Mi is interesting, but IBM has made it a 
>dead end. This limits its usefulness and the level of interest of its 
>adherents. Adding a Power Pc compiler to the mix would juice things up a 
>bit.
>
>4. Could implement the sls external module concept.  The iseries has this 
>outstanding sls architecture that enables code in external modules to be 
>quickly resolved to and then jumped to as efficiently as an indirect jump 
>within a pgm. Its full capabilities are being wasted by the powers that be. 
>  A power pc compiler could enable such a call to an external module.
>
>5. Other mi extension possiblities. User defined os400 objects, a machine 
>supported string data type, 8 byte integers, UniCode data type, non static 
>instruction pointers, parallel processing ...
>
>6. More feasible than it might seem. Many mi opcodes such as LOCKSL, 
>MATPTRL, RSLVSP could be implemented as jumps to module code that have been 
>pre compiled to run the mi opcode with arguments passed to the module. ( 
>exception handling might be tough though )
>
>7. Low resistance to collaboration. The non commecial value of a power pc 
>compiler removes an inpediment to collaboration. That is, people would be 
>willing to share knowledge and code because they have nothing to lose.
>
>8. The ability to collaborate. The web provides the ability for dispersed 
>people to collaborate. The connectivity of the web is an ideal medium for a 
>voluntary, collaborative project.
>
>9. Web accessed shared system would be a good thing. The project would work 
>best if there was an as400 on the web that all participants could telnet 
>and ftp to. This would be good to have for sharing code of all kinds.
>
>10. Not a risc <g> to system security and integrity. The compiler would not 
>be for commercial use. It would not provide any ability to challenge the 
>system that an mi pgmr using sst already has. ( especially if the pgm 
>validation value cannot be cracked ). A charter could even state that 
>participants agree not to add any feature to the assembler that could be 
>used in such a way.
>
>11. Only talk is needed to start the project. The first phase of the 
>project is discussion based. How could a pgm object be constructed by an mi 
>pgm? How could the code ( data ) of a shell pgm be copied into the 
>constructed object? How could the pgm object header be set to enable the 
>constructed pgm to be runable? Who has an as400 they could put on the web? 
>...
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>Steve Richter
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