Re: QSCMATPG and QSCCRTPG -- MI400

Hi, Steve:

To answer your question, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

The "New MI" (NMI) is totally separate from the "original MI", just as
the "Original Program Model" (OPM) is completely separate and distinct
from the "Integrated Language Environment" (ILE). The "binary template"
form of the OPM MI template that you get from QSCMATPG is exactly
the same as what you get from the MATPG instruction, only it is returned
as 80-byte "card images" in a physical file member (with RCDLEN(80)).
The OPM MI template is preserved for "compatibility" with all the old
programs that still use OPM, such as RPG/400, COBOL/400, etc.

The "New MI" (or NMI) is NOT DOCUMENTED anywhere outside of
IBM, and is considered by IBM to be "INTERNAL USE ONLY".

All I was trying to say is, if you use OPM MI, then these are two rather
useful APIs, and they should be documented somewhere.

Regards,

Mark S. Waterbury

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Richter" <srichter@AutoCoder.com>
To: <MI400@midrange.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: QSCMATPG and QSCCRTPG


> good find mark.
>
> I use the MATPG mi instruction to materialize a pgm. I guess that is the
> same as QSCMATPG.  The documentation for the materialize template layout
> that I have is from the s/38 functional reference manual. ( of course, now
I
> cant find those pages ).
>
> Now QSccrtpg, do you think you can slip some nmi into the template and get
> it to compile??
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark S. Waterbury <mark_s_waterbury@yahoo.com>
> To: MI400@midrange.com <MI400@midrange.com>
> Date: Saturday, May 26, 2001 5:26 PM
> Subject: QSCMATPG and QSCCRTPG
>
>
> >Hello:
> >
> >Does anyone remember these two wonderful little APIs,
> >QSCMATPG, and QSCCRTPG?  The first one materializes the
> >OPM MI binary template, and returns it as 80-byte card images in a
> >"flat file". (From the name, it issues the MATPG MI instruction.)
> >
> >The second one, QSCCRTPG, reads 80-byte card images in a
> >"flat file", and re-creates the *PGM object. (Again, from the name,
> >this one issues the CRTPG instruction).
> >
> >However, they are not documented in the OS/400 Systems Programmers
> >API Reference Manuals (for any releases that I could find). And yet,
these
> >have been "public" APIs for many years, perhaps all the way back to the
> >System/38.
> >
> >Does anyone out there know why they are (still) not documented? Or,
> >perhaps a better question might be, does anyone know how or where to
> >obtain documentation of these routines?
> >
> >Go to http://www-1.ibm.com/support/ on the web, then type in
> >either "QSCMATPG" or "QSCCRTPG"  in the "Search" box, and
> >click the "Go" button.  You will get an interesting history of the
> >"PTF wars" that resulted when IBM decided to remove these APIs
> >from OS/400 in V2R3, and suddenly, a whole bunch of various vendor
> >products stopped working, and many customers complained bitterly, etc.
> >
> >So, since these APIs have been "restored" to shipping with OS/400 in
QSYS,
> >why are they not documented anywhere?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark S. Waterbury
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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