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Re: MAPICS-L Digest, Vol 8, Issue 145

We have a number of partners in Germany that can clarify this issue. Please contact Gottfried.Koehler@xxxxxxxxx and he can connect you to the relevant resource in Germany.

We have a number of XA customers in Germany, I know this issue has an available resolution.

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1. Re: Location In Germany (Kevin D Fox)
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date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:33:36 +0000
from: "Kevin D Fox" <kdfox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Location In Germany

Doug

This depends on the type of data. If any data is considered private under German law then this is correct, the data cannot physicall reside outside of Germany.

However, if the data is not considered private under German law, then the data is free to be stored anywhere.

Know what is or is not private under german law is difficult and would require a german attorney to help you decide.

Private data can include clocking times for your employees, all employee and some vendor data if the vendor is a german company

Also you should be aware of the EU laws as well the are part of doing business in germany

Kevin Fox
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:13:38
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Subject: [MAPICS-L] Location In Germany

We are running XA7.7 on an iSeries in the US. We have several locations
in the US, Canada, and UK all running remotely on our corporate iSeries
and using XA. We have a location in Germany that we have not brought
onto the corporate system yet, but are now ready to. However, the
management at the facility is telling us that they are not allowed to
run their business on a remote system outside of Germany.



I am finding this hard to believe but can't seem to change their
position. Is anyone else running a facility in Germany on a US based XA
system? Or have knowledge of this kind of limitation within Germany.



Thanks for your input.



Doug



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date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:03:21 -0700 (PDT)
from: Dale Gindlesperger <dale_gindlesperger@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Dedicated Mapics Backup

That makes things MUCH simpler. If you can do a backup to disk, then a later
save of the backup to tape, you should (emphasis on "should") be able to get the
XA backup done over a lunch break. I've been able to.

BTW - if you want, I can provide a quick save of the backup to tape that can be
added to the post-backup process, or placed in the job scheduler (which is how I
usually did it). Very easy.

Dale (Cork) Gindlesperger, CPIM

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costs...."




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From: Barb Baase <BBaase@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 11:13:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Dedicated Mapics Backup

Well, it looks like we are going to go with the offline mode of the data
collection software so I will be able to have some time to get the
dedicated backup. Yay! We are a solution by Integrated Barcoding
Systems. Thanks,

Barbara Baase
Assistant IS Manager
Duro-Last Roofing, Inc.
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From: Dale Gindlesperger <dale_gindlesperger@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 09/14/2010 08:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Dedicated Mapics Backup
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Barb,

Just how "24/7" do you actually have to be? I ask this because I know of
many
3 shift organizations that are nominally 24/7, but actually do a backup
each
night during 3rd shift lunch break. For example, if you use COM_Net and
MDCC,
both applications stay up for the users, but the transactions simply don't
post
until after the XA backups are completed. Ditto with non-XA applications,
for
example two of my accounts have add-on, in-house written IM transactions
done
through green-screen data collection, but those transactions simply wait
until
the backups are done.

Dale (Cork) Gindlesperger, CPIM

"If you think education is expensive, wait until you see what lack of
education
costs...."

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From: "BBaase@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <BBaase@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 8:05:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Dedicated Mapics Backup

This sounds interesting. I may have to try it. We do have source code
for XA.

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On Sep 14, 2010, at 7:01 PM, "Richard Stover"
<rstover@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> At a high level you for sure need to get a dedicated environment long
enough to
>run the true XA backup disk-to-disk then back up the save files to tape
later.
>As for applications outside XA that do not test for dedicated mode the
actaul
>back up process does record locking, not file locking. Therefore if you
put say
>a 5 sec. wait in the calling routine to handle the record lock neither XA
or the
>other application should care. Worth experimenting with.
>
> Dick Stover
> Guide Technologies, LLC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barb Baase <BBaase@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 2:22 PM
> To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [MAPICS-L] Dedicated Mapics Backup
>
> I am just wondering, in general, how do people get a dedicated Mapics
> backup in a 24/7 environment?
> Is it a recommended practice to use SQL servers and synchronize data
to
> them to be used by applications such as shop floor data collection,
so
> that those applications can use the data from the SQL server while
the
> iSeries is down? My knowledge of SQL and it's abilities is very
limited
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