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Bryan

It's not about work effort or costs. It's about ROI. If you can't justify upgrading by utilizing and taking advantage of the ability to improve your processes and lower your costs, don't do it.

On the otherhand, if you are unable to demonstrate an ROI when implementing the new functions and features on R7.8, (with R9 just around the corner)then something is terribly wrong. Just look at SupplyWEB. We anticipate a 6 month ROI after we implement next year.

Technically, getting to the current code is easier than ever because of the new tools built into Link Manager that automatically reviews your code base, including custom code, and identifies all the changes required.

But, again don't even think about it unless you can demonstrate an ROI.

My 2 cents

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: "Burns, Bryan" <Bryan_Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Dec 3, 2009 7:49 AM
To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Upgrade to 7.8 question.

Kevin,

We're on XAR5.5 and haven't done a PCM in 10 years and have a lot of
custom code. Clearly we're in for a lot of work if and when we choose
to upgrade. I'm curious as to whether you think there's going to be a
point where there's a release where an upgrade for us would be
exponentially more work than it is now, given what you said about l
level back and all.

Put simply, nothing's impossible, as I've heard there are still shops on
DB; but how long can we hold out without digging ourselves into a very
deep hole?

Thanks,

Bryan Burns

-----Original Message-----
From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Fox
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:55 PM
To: 'MAPICS ERP System Discussion'
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Upgrade to 7.8 question.

Otto

Going to R7.8 is actually quite easy because of the new tools.

It's a problem with applying PTF's at ANY existing level because the
PCM's
are not frequent enough. As R7.7 will go end of life with R7.9
(R9)..they
will issue a final PCM shortly. So it's not a new problem. Just one
that was exacerbated by the XA group's decision to support R5, R6 and
all versions of R7.

That problem has been rectified with the announcement to return to a
sane policy (which it has always been) of support current and 1 back
level release.

You should be certain to bear in mind when planning next year that with
the release of R9 (R7.9) in March/April...R7.8 becomes the 1 level back
and all previous versions go end of life.

Kevin

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