Jeff see below comments inserted, per area of concern.
date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:04:59 -0400from: "Jeff Williams" <jeffw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>subject: [MAPICS-L] Product Structure and Bill of MaterialsHi everyone. I am looking for some insight. Let me lay some groundwork.1) My company uses IM and PDM green screen xa 72) We have about 3,000 product structures. A lot of which are exactly the same as some of the others just packaging changes.
If the P/S is basically the same as an FYI - EPDM allows for generic BOMs that could be assigned to various end items. May be worth looking into. Plus the added benefit of the Browser maintenance (you'll never go back to GS)
Pkg matl: You could expense the Pkg matl. ie. not include it in the BOM, you could still Inventory the different pkg matl, just not issue it to the MO, simply 'IS' . (Cr inv, DR Exp).
This is of particularily good practice if various pkg matl could be used for the same product.
If the pkg matl is an expensive percent of the overall cost, of course this would not work, many Cos have a combination, some exp, some that participate in the final product cost. In this case you could set up a Std 'pseudo' pkg item number , just for costing, and have it participate in the BOM, but perform an unplanned Issue of the actual pkg matl to the MO. There would be no allocations to the actual pkg item number, so, set the ROP higher then normal.
3) We are also using a single level bill of material
Im not sure I understand the question here ? Is this just information, or a question.
I have 2 questions.1) We maintain our product structures a lot this causes a lot of headaches. What is a good way to use Mapics better to minimize our headaches. I am exploring phantom records. Any ideas?
Phantoms would make no sense to me within a single level structure, I dont understand the question.
You understand that the phantom is to eliminate the need for a mid - level item 's MO. tis a 'Blow through' designed to build the mid-level item on demand, the phantom's parts are allocated, and issued, phantom's are built one to one per the parent MO requirement. There are labor, cost issues to resolve.
2) Sometimes we have the same raw material from 2 suppliers. Currently we would have 2 different item codes and 2 difference product structures for this. Is this a better way to handle this?
I would not have 2 item codes for the same raw matl....how would you differentiate in Inventory, or cycle count ? Are the parts truly interchangeable ? Without further understanding, analysis, off the top of my head I'd say set the Std cost to the Pri vendor and let the PPV fall where it may.
Jeff , bottom line is there seems to be a lot of education of I/M, PCC, COSTING, and PDM, or EPDM required before you are ready to begin making decisions.
Not to sound pompous, but with education comes understanding, and this leads to prudent decisions.
I dont believe you will receive the full content of the ed you require via email exchanges, I hope this tid bit helps , but I think you need to engage in a formal education , implementation path with a qualified vendor of your choosing. This is Not an advertisement, just an observation.
My apologize if I offended in any way. Just trying to help you become successful.
Keep me posted and let me know if I can be of further assistance, if you'd like to limit your discussions with installed users I certainly understand.
Jeff Snyder, CPIM
Guide Technologies, LLC
jsnyder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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