RE: Paperless: JOB OFF Reporting by individual machines

I agree, don't reinvent if at all possible.

The reason I asked the question is 95% of the time they are asking for
standard MAPICS function (cost, capacity, etc.) without wanting to setup
MAPICS to perform the function (i.e. setup the production facilities
correctly) and so they expect IT to "solve" the problem for them.

If it is for cost reasons there is a tendency to want costs detailed beyond
what is necessary to provide "accurate" costing.

If it is for capacity, there is a tendency to create capacity requirements
monitoring where it is not required.  

If it is for scheduling by machine then what they are saying is that each
machine is not "equivalent" to the others in the work center and therefore
need to be separated out.  This needs to be done in the routing files as
well for changes to the work center files will not be enough.

The question becomes, where does the data reside regarding these machines if
not in MAPICS?  And WHY?

If the data is kept outside of MAPICS because there is no good business
reason for it to be in MAPICS, then great lets keep it outside MAPICS.  I'd
use the user exits in PMC to write to a non-MAPICS file. You just need to
put "reason codes" on the "off" transaction.
  
If there is a good business reason to want the data, then in almost all
cases it is best to "model" the real world in MAPICS.

Just some thoughts to help you avoid some very (VERY) common mistakes.

Kevin Fox
kdfox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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I have not talked with the engineer about that regard.  Our communication 
has been informal (email) but I can ask him.  I guess they will require 
the ability to collect cost, hours, capacity, etc.  all they can. but 
again, I have not talked to him.

I was just curious first if this was achievable by somebody before 
spending any efforts from my part in reinventing the wheel...

Thanks!


Peter Vidal 
PALL Corporation / SR Programmer Analyst, IT Development Group
10540 Ridge Rd., Ste 203, New Port Richey, FL 34654-5111
http://www.pall.com

"Courage is the strength or choice to begin a change. Determination is the 
persistence to continue in that change." 
-- Anonymous --




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Hi Peter,

I understand the action required, collect data by machine.  I'm just
wondering what data and what will be done with it?  Is it for costing,
capacity, ....?

Thanks

Kevin Fox
kdfox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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"Peter, What is it your trying to do?  There are several possible 
solutions 
depending upon the objectives."


Thank you!

As I said before, when employees do JOB OFF, we would like to know the 
information for each 
one of the machines separately but within the work center.

Regards,

Peter Vidal 
PALL Corporation / SR Programmer Analyst, IT Development Group
10540 Ridge Rd., Ste 203, New Port Richey, FL 34654-5111
http://www.pall.com

"Courage is the strength or choice to begin a change. Determination is the 

persistence to continue in that change." 
-- Anonymous --


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