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me thinks you may be on the right track, which makes me kinda wonder why
it was originally put on the parts list...  ???

oh well...



On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Glenn Ericson wrote:

> Don  I have  no clue  other then  when things are new
> probability of misunderstanding is greater.
>
> HMC has  some other  areas of misconception were  you can create another
> point of single failure for the  sake of  false economy and  defeat on of
> the purposes of HMC itself
>
> At 11:22 PM 8/25/2004, Don wrote:
>
>
> >GOOD question...I figured that if he had it, he had it for a reason.
> >
> >Why would you even want the HMC unless you needed it?
> >
> >oh well...
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Glenn Ericson wrote:
> >
> > > Don  that's   very  true BUT  why  does he  even  need it if there
> > > is  NO  LPAR or OnDemand use???
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:21 PM 8/25/2004, Don wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >Steve,
> > > >
> > > >the "recommendation" is NEVER to plug in/turn on the 400 before the HMC 
> > > >is
> > > >up and config'ed or it's major league pains for some unfortunate
> > > >sysadmins....you thought mapics-I was a challenge....:)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 sjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I know it was plugged in before the HMC was even shipped from
> > IBM.  Now I
> > > > > am not sure if it was configured to have HMC or not.  I am looking 
> > > > > into
> > > > > that now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve Jones
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >              Don
> > > > >              <dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >              >
> >      To
> > > > >              Sent by:                  MAPICS ERP System Discussion
> > > > >              mapics-l-bounces@         <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >              midrange.com
> >      cc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > Fax to
> > > > >              08/25/2004 01:05
> > > > >              PM
> > Subject
> > > > >                                        RE: Wow!
> > > > >
> > > > >              Please respond to
> > > > >              MAPICS ERP System
> > > > >                 Discussion
> > > > >              <mapics-l@midrang
> > > > >                   e.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Uh, you didn't by change plug in the 400 BEFORE install/config of
> > the HMC
> > > > > did you????
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 sjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ours upgrade was different than what you will be doing.  We went
> > from a
> > > > > 820
> > > > > > to a 520.  New I-Series shipped to us from IBM, was supposed to
> > have V5R3
> > > > > > pre-loaded on it.  No OS was even loaded on it, had DASD we never
> > even
> > > > > > ordered in it, no power cords to connect the expansion module or
> > the main
> > > > > > module to the rack.  That was just for starters......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HMC is a complete joke, still have not figured it out completely.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve Jones
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >              "Roof, Doug"
> > > > > >              <doug.roof@haldex
> > > > > >              .com>
> > > > > To
> > > > > >              Sent by:                  "'MAPICS ERP System
> > Discussion'"
> > > > > >              mapics-l-bounces@         <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >              midrange.com
> > > > > cc
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >    Fax
> > > > > to
> > > > > >              08/25/2004 12:33
> > > > > >              PM
> > > > > Subject
> > > > > >                                        RE: Wow!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >              Please respond to
> > > > > >              MAPICS ERP System
> > > > > >                 Discussion
> > > > > >              <mapics-l@midrang
> > > > > >                   e.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > > We are planning to upgrade to O/S V5R3 (no hardware upgrade) -
> > currently
> > > > > > running V5R2
> > > > > > Your comment about IBM problems-
> > > > > > What kinds of problems ?
> > > > > > What OS were coming from ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doug Roof
> > > > > > Haldex Hydraulics
> > > > > > Rockford IL
> > > > > > doug.roof@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > 815.387.4478
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of sjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:20 AM
> > > > > > To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Wow!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are not going to Rel 7, but just went to a 520...  Hope yours 
> > > > > > goes
> > > > > MUCH
> > > > > > better than ours did.....  It was the worst upgrade we have ever
> > done....
> > > > > > Nothing wrong on the MAPICS side of things, but IBM was entire
> > > > > > nightmare!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve Jones
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >              Teresa Biby
> > > > > >              <TBiby@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > >              Sent by:
> > > > > To
> > > > > >              mapics-l-bounces@         "'MAPICS ERP System
> > Discussion'"
> > > > > >              midrange.com              <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >
> > > > > cc
> > > > > >
> > > > > >              08/25/2004
> > 12:14                                       Fax
> > > > > to
> > > > > >              PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > Subject
> > > > > >                                        RE: Wow!
> > > > > >              Please respond to
> > > > > >              MAPICS ERP System
> > > > > >                 Discussion
> > > > > >              <mapics-l@midrang
> > > > > >                   e.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did you take the plunge and go to Rel 7 also?  We expect our 520
> > sometime
> > > > > > next week--still gun shy on going to Rel 7. Anyone else gone to
> > Rel 7?
> > > > > War
> > > > > > stories?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: LDegnon@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:LDegnon@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 12:10 PM
> > > > > > To: Mapics-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: Wow!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's about all I can say about the difference from going from a 
> > > > > > 170
> > > > > > series(Tiny Tim), to a new 520 series Box!!!  Not that would ever
> > want to
> > > > > > have to do this again in this lifetime, but what a
> > difference!!!  MAPICS
> > > > > > flies now!!!  Even Browser!!!  Anyhow, wanted to know what other
> > people
> > > > > > thought of the changes in new O/S V5R3?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lloyd H. Degnon
> > > > > > I.S. Manager
> > > > > > AmPro Computers, Inc.
> > > > > > 5215 Hellyer Ave.
> > > > > > Building #110
> > > > > > San Jose, CA 95138
> > > > > > (408) 360-4365
> > > > > > ldegnon@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > www.AmPro.com
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