RE: AS400 Backup, Daily vs. Monthly -- MAPICS-L


Just be careful where you are when you endsbs qinter *immed...  If you're
IN QINTER, you can't endsbs as the o/s presumes you don't know what you're
doing.



On Thu, 27 May 2004 LeLeux@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> I second the user comment made by Steve!!
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> Terminating sbs qinter will take care of all logged on users except those
> in
> Browser and PDM+. Sometime you cant get a "dedicated system" for backups.
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> a WRKOBJLCK AMFLIB/SYSCTL. This will show you the users that are on the
> system and are  Preventing the capture of a dedicated system.
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> All the functions you listed, except backup, should be done by users.
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> Be strong
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Thobe [mailto:ShawnT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:05 PM
> To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
> Subject: RE: AS400 Backup, Daily vs. Monthly
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> Currently I there is several steps I run through before starting the
> backup:
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> Modify and run a query to print some TA transaction
> End any logged on users
> Delete abended jobs
> Close any suspended or Active IM Batches
> Post closed batches
> Do a Select and Edit in PMC for Inventory
> The prepare the transactions
> Finally start the backup which backups some non MAPICS libraries
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> Any assistance would be great.  The reason I do all of the above is
> because this is what my former Manager did and since he left I haven't
> had time to figure out a different way but I'm getting pretty tired of
> this process.
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> Shawn Thobe
> Network Administrator
> Fort Recovery Industries Inc.
> 419-375-4121
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Anderson [mailto:banderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 4:27 PM
> To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
> Subject: RE: AS400 Backup, Daily vs. Monthly
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> Shawn,
>                  I don't remember which PTF it is but there is on that
> will let
> you automate
> the backup. Ours runs on Tues, Wed, Fri and Sat at 2 AM and call a
> custom
> backup after the Mapics one to backup our LogPro and EDI stuff.  We run
> a
> full system backup on Thur at 2 Am
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> Bob Anderson
> EDI Coordinator
> Kent Watersports
> banderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 419.929.7021 x315
> Fax 419.929.1380
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Shawn Thobe
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 4:19 PM
> To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
> Subject: RE: AS400 Backup, Daily vs. Monthly
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> Terry,
> I would love to know how you automate the backup process.  I'm new to
> MAPICS and I have been doing the process manually on the weekends
> (clean-up) then starting a MAPICS backup to tape.
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> Shawn Thobe
> Network Administrator
> Fort Recovery Industries Inc.
> 419-375-4121
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Novak, Momentum [mailto:gnovak@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:53 PM
> To: 'MAPICS ERP System Discussion'
> Subject: RE: AS400 Backup, Daily vs. Monthly
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> Terry,
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> If you have any CL programming skills (or know someone who does), you
> could
> write a CL program that checks for the day of the month and delays
> starting
> the backup if it is the last day.
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> Or you could have shipping actually do their job during normal business
> hours (sorry, couldn't resist).
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> Regards,
> -Greg
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> Gregory Novak
> Manager North American Technical Services
> Momentum Utilities Pty Ltd
> (630) 985-1736
> gnovak@xxxxxxxxxx
> www.jacana.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Lauderdale [mailto:DLAUDERDALE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:24 AM
> To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
> Subject: RE: AS400 Backup, Daily vs. Monthly
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> Terry,
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> If you are using a job schedule entry to run these backups, you can
> designate the scheduled "date" to be *MONTHEND and the scheduled "day"
> to be
> *NONE.  This will run only on the last day of the month.  However, you
> still
> need a mechanism to stop the "daily" backup automatically.  I will have
> to
> think about that part of it.
>
> David
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry LeBlanc [mailto:TLeBlanc@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:08 AM
> To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
> Subject: RE: AS400 Backup, Daily vs. Monthly
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> We run MAPICS XA 5.5 on an iSeries Model 720.  We normally run MAPICS
> Backup at 9:00 PM, with some scripts and RPG programs to "prep", takes a
> little over an hour with the wait times, etc.  The MAPICS Backup is
> directed to a SaveFile on the AS400.
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> We run the standard AS400 backup to tape media daily at 11:00 PM.  This
> process takes approximately 2 1/2 hours, finishing around 1:30 AM.
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> Problem:
> On the last day of the month we need to skip/delay the MAPICS backup and
> skip/delay the AS400 backup so that shipping can continue until at least
> midnight with uninterrupted access to MAPICS.  The MAPICS backup is
> fairly easy, I can just "delete" the backup job from the batch queue for
> that night, or reschedule for later.  It's the AS400 backup that I'm not
> sure how to handle...
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> Question:
> Is there a way to define a Monthly backup, instead of the normal Daily
> backup for that day, for only the last day of a month?  It could be any
> day of the week...it's the LAST DAY that needs to have a "later" backup
> schedule run...not the normal Daily schedule, the later MONTHLY
> schedule...
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> I'm not an AS400 guru, but it looks like the normal dialogue in V5R1
> requires at least 1 "day" be selected.  I don't want to select a "day"
> of the week...I want the LAST DAY of each month to run later, whatever
> day of the week that may be.  Make sense?
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> Can you assist?  I would appreciate email responses to
> TLeBlanc@xxxxxxxxxxx, if possible, since I don't get by the list as much
> as I probably should, and month-end is Monday.<g>
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> Thanks!
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> Terry J. LeBlanc
> Manager Information Systems
> Nailite International
> (305) 620-6200 x239
> (768) 284-1953 Direct
> TLeBlanc@xxxxxxxxxxx
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