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Dear Pete: (Sorry for the text in the first message. I am sending this one from my Outlook Client ? perhaps this is better?) RFID is playing multiple roles these days in many, many environments and for many solutions. From your initial question, here are some ideas to investigate: 1. You could attack this using a standard solution with bar codes and data collection devices for tracking. If you are to ship a product out to a vender and if all of the operations had not been completed (or scanned) as instructed, the order cannot ship. This could be a function of MAPICS and/or the front end data collection solution. 2. Using an RF tag/solution itself, the application needs to be read/write. As an example, operation 10 was just completed. When that happens, the tag can get written to with that step completed. The next operation, being 20, has not been updated (since it is not completed). Again, if the unit was to ship and the series of operations had not yet been completed, the transaction could be stopped. 3. The logistics and the environment can be tricky. Neither the tag nor even a label could withstand heat treating. In the case of a label, certain types can withstand 500 deg F. There may be specialty tags that could take some amount of heat, but I bet they would be cost prohibitive. In that case, you would need a work order traveler or RF tag attached to a tray, tote, pallet, etc, that goes with the items/tools that you are producing. I hope this helps you. There is much ground to cover when deciding on a solution for applications such as this and I would happy to discuss this with you further. Please contact at the email address/phone below. Best Regards, Rick Schweitzer Information Systems Engineering, Inc. Paper-Less, LLC mailto:rick.schweitzer@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rick.schweitzer@xxxxxxxxxxx> WEB SITE: http://www.gopaper-less.com/ <http://www.gopaper-less.com/> Business: 207-676-2118 Mobile: 207-423-4860 mobile messaging: 2074234860@xxxxxxxxxxx mapics-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 03/02/2004 12:00 PM Please respond to mapics-l To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc: bcc: Subject: MAPICS-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 60 Send MAPICS-L mailing list submissions to mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mapics-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at mapics-l-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of MAPICS-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RFID (Pete Olshavsky) 2. Re: RFID (Jim Black) 3. Re: RFID (Pete Olshavsky) 4. RE: RFID (Andy J. Jacobs) 5. Mapics Browser (Walter, Regina) 6. Re: Mapics Browser (DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx) 7. RE: Mapics Browser (Ashworth, Thomas R.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- message: 1 date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 04:54:43 -0800 (PST) from: Pete Olshavsky <polshavsky@xxxxxxxxx> subject: RFID Good Morning Group, Just doing some preliminary checking. But one of my accts is looking into using Radio Frequency Identification tags. ((RFID). Does anyone have any experience with these? Have you used/interfaced these with Mapics in any way? What they are thinking. And again very very early stage. Is to help control items that go to outside vendors for heat treat and plating. Thanks in advance Pete Olshavsky --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster. ------------------------------ message: 2 date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 08:01:00 -0500 from: "Jim Black" <jrblack@xxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: RFID Pete: You say this is to help control items that go outside for processing. What is the problem they are experiencing and how do you see this technology addressing it? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Olshavsky" <polshavsky@xxxxxxxxx> To: <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 7:54 AM Subject: RFID > Good Morning Group, Just doing some preliminary checking. > But one of my accts is looking into using Radio Frequency Identification tags. ((RFID). > Does anyone have any experience with these? Have you used/interfaced these with Mapics in any way? > What they are thinking. And again very very early stage. Is to help control items that go to outside vendors for heat treat and plating. > > Thanks in advance > > Pete Olshavsky > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster. > _______________________________________________ > This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l > or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. > > ------------------------------ message: 3 date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 05:09:46 -0800 (PST) from: Pete Olshavsky <polshavsky@xxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: RFID Jim, Part of the problem is they sent some items to be plated with out heat treat 1st and then shipped the finished product. What they were thinking and again I just heard about this late yesterday. So I believe they want to see if these tags can help prevent operations from being skipped. This is about all I know at this point in time. Pete Jim Black <jrblack@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Pete: You say this is to help control items that go outside for processing. What is the problem they are experiencing and how do you see this technology addressing it? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Olshavsky" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 7:54 AM Subject: RFID > Good Morning Group, Just doing some preliminary checking. > But one of my accts is looking into using Radio Frequency Identification tags. ((RFID). > Does anyone have any experience with these? Have you used/interfaced these with Mapics in any way? > What they are thinking. And again very very early stage. Is to help control items that go to outside vendors for heat treat and plating. > > Thanks in advance > > Pete Olshavsky > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster. > _______________________________________________ > This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l > or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. > > _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster. ------------------------------ message: 4 date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 08:34:06 -0500 from: "Andy J. Jacobs" <ajjacobs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: RE: RFID Pete RFID is the new buzz word out in the market today. Wallmart is pushing this hard for all of their top suppliers to be compliant by 2006. The dream is to have all of the products in stores be labeled and when you walk thru the readers, all of your products will be scanned and eliminate long checkout lines. How RFID tags work and what effect it has on Mapics is simple. RFID tags can be read only, read write, or variations of these. What information you can place on the tag will be determined on the size of the memory and the device you use to read the tag. This will determine how Mapics will view the data coming in. Think of it as if you were typing in some information to a typical screen of Mapics as to how the data will interact with your Mapics. There are many ways you can take the data and massage that into Mapics, but that can be discussed more offline. One thing to keep in mind is that RFID tags are not cheap right now and they can have some limitations to heating, so the environment can play a factor in the RFID tag and may not be appropriate until after the heat treating process. Feel free to contact me offline if you would like some additional information. Sincerely Andy Jacobs President Integrated Barcoding Systems 1.517.266.7771 Ext.101 1.517.266.7772 Fax -----Original Message----- From: Pete Olshavsky [mailto:polshavsky@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 8:10 AM To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion Subject: Re: RFID Jim, Part of the problem is they sent some items to be plated with out heat treat 1st and then shipped the finished product. What they were thinking and again I just heard about this late yesterday. So I believe they want to see if these tags can help prevent operations from being skipped. This is about all I know at this point in time. Pete Jim Black <jrblack@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Pete: You say this is to help control items that go outside for processing. What is the problem they are experiencing and how do you see this technology addressing it? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Olshavsky" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 7:54 AM Subject: RFID > Good Morning Group, Just doing some preliminary checking. > But one of my accts is looking into using Radio Frequency Identification tags. ((RFID). > Does anyone have any experience with these? Have you used/interfaced these with Mapics in any way? > What they are thinking. And again very very early stage. Is to help control items that go to outside vendors for heat treat and plating. > > Thanks in advance > > Pete Olshavsky > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster. > _______________________________________________ > This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l > or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. > > _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster. _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. ------------------------------ message: 5 date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 11:17:25 -0500 from: "Walter, Regina" <RWalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Mapics Browser We are currently using Mapics XA6 modules COM, PUR, IM, PDM, PDM+, CRP, PCC, MRP, and IFM. We are considering purchasing the Mapics Browser but would like information about its functionality, productivity gains, support issues, etc. that does not come from a Mapics affiliate's sales pitch. We're particularly interested in pros and cons of using it over COM. Please let me know what you think of the product and over which modules you are using it. I am also interested in lessons learned on the installation, training, and maintenance of the Browser. Thanks, Regina Walter Senior Programmer/Analyst ------------------------------ message: 6 date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:03:24 -0500 from: DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx subject: Re: Mapics Browser Regina, IF your users are very comfortable with working with PCs, and are not irrevocably married to their green screen (some of mine are sooooo attached to their green screens they are at the "until death us do part!" stage), Browser can provide improved data access and maintenance capabilities that are little short of incredible. Two examples at Fleetwood: 1. Engineering after we converted to EPDM (and Browser), we went from 2 full time data entry people maintaining records, plus numerous individuals who maintained specific data elements, to 1 full time person. We kept the numerous individuals, but now they can only access the specific fields they are to maintain. Not only did we get significant productivity improvements, we got much, much more security and accountability. 2. Material Planners - a weekly order review/release task done by one of our people took over 2 hours each week, now takes about 20 minutes. That's one specific example, there are more. The flexibility and dynamics of the Browser interface can't be compared to green screen. You really need to get your affiliate to demo this correctly. I could list dozens and dozens of specific enhancements that Browser has provided us - and we still don't have everyone using it. It's available, they just won't give up their beloved green screens (yet). But you really have to put time and effort into training! That is absolutely critical. And the customization of views and cards, where you get the "big bang", takes some time and effort up front. Dale Gindlesperger IT Manager/Special Projects Leader Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc. 258 Beacon Street Somerset, PA 15501 "Walter, Regina" <RWalter@xxxxxxxxxxx To: "'mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx'" <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> extron.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Mapics Browser mapics-l-bounces@mid range.com 03/02/2004 11:17 AM Please respond to MAPICS ERP System Discussion We are currently using Mapics XA6 modules COM, PUR, IM, PDM, PDM+, CRP, PCC, MRP, and IFM. We are considering purchasing the Mapics Browser but would like information about its functionality, productivity gains, support issues, etc. that does not come from a Mapics affiliate's sales pitch. We're particularly interested in pros and cons of using it over COM. Please let me know what you think of the product and over which modules you are using it. I am also interested in lessons learned on the installation, training, and maintenance of the Browser. Thanks, Regina Walter Senior Programmer/Analyst _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. ------------------------------ message: 7 date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:11:40 -0500 from: "Ashworth, Thomas R." <TAshwort@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: RE: Mapics Browser Regina, We use the same array of XA6 modules and have had Browser installed for a little over two years and there is still a certain amount of learning-curve and on-going 'discovery' issues. The interface is appealing to the users, but certainly a challenge to administer and manage. Several points to consider: 1) If you 'upgrade' PDM/PDM+ to EPDM, maintenance of Item Master/Revision and Bills of Material is restricted to Browser ONLY; the green-screen features are forever disabled [although inquiries are supported through a support add-on]. 2) COM is somewhat enhanced by allowing a greater volume and choice of information-per-panel and can be easily tailored for both your company's and individual usage of specific data elements, but there is no support for Picking/Shipping activity. Our user-base has also expressed their frustration with Order Entry/Maintenance with Browser, leading to a dual-use of green screen for order entry/maintenance and Pick/Pack/Ship functions and Browser for inquiry/analysis. 3) If you have 'problems' with your user-base downloading MAPICS information to personal spreadsheets for reporting and distribution, Browser will only make things worse, as this feature is listed as one of Browser's benefits. 4) Customized Views/Subets/Sorts can certainly be a great improvement for the user-base, but caution MUST be excercised, as the out-of-the-box MAPICS definitions can create more confusion than provide clear answers. The MAPICS database is not always represented in it's clearest and most usable form and a non-technical user can often make incorrect assumtions if the data is selected incorrectly or from the 'wrong' source. 5) If you consider deploying Browser to your users, invest in Integrator to support the list of modifications and enhancements that will be forthcoming. Not only is Integrator useful in bringing-in data from non-MAPICS Sources, but also to re-define and enhance some of what I consider to be shortcomings of the Browsers use of the MAPICS database. This product was intended to move data analysis away from IT-support and distribute this function to the users, but a strong group of 'power-users' with a clear understanding of the MAPICS workflow, logis and [ideally] the database is still a requirement. I would be glad to discuss any additional questions that you may have either through this posting or off-line via direct email. Thomas Ashworth Business Applications Manager Altec Lansing Technologies, Inc. ** Any opinions expressed are solely my own and do not reflect the views that may be held by other members of Altec Lansing or our business partners. -----Original Message----- From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter, Regina Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 11:17 AM To: 'mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: Mapics Browser We are currently using Mapics XA6 modules COM, PUR, IM, PDM, PDM+, CRP, PCC, MRP, and IFM. We are considering purchasing the Mapics Browser but would like information about its functionality, productivity gains, support issues, etc. that does not come from a Mapics affiliate's sales pitch. We're particularly interested in pros and cons of using it over COM. Please let me know what you think of the product and over which modules you are using it. I am also interested in lessons learned on the installation, training, and maintenance of the Browser. Thanks, Regina Walter Senior Programmer/Analyst _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) digest list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. End of MAPICS-L Digest, Vol 2, Issue 60 ***************************************
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