Re: Move Transactions....

[DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Hi!

I read it, but was too caught up in stuff to respond.  That is a lengthy
problem, with a lengthy solution - actually a series of lengthy solutions.
We used to use MOVEs, but abandoned them as too time consuming for
reporting.  Instead, we switched to queue time for scheduling, and wrote a
series of audit programs to catch people who over-claim operations.  That
sounds simple, but we spent a LOT of time figuring out what to do.

We also have a lot of people that will "run out the bar (or sheet, or roll,
as the case may be)", and that's OK, it's better than scrap and we will use
it eventually anyway.  The department managers handle that when the
quantities are out of whack on the operations vs. the orders.  It is a
little manually intensive, but we set tolerances on the reports - if over a
certain % above standard, the reports flags the line for checking out.  I
had suggested that we ONLY print the flagged operations, but they want to
see them all.

Eventually, I want to set up an object and view for this in Browser, but
that's one of those "good ideas" that I hope to get to before I retire.

Dale Gindlesperger
IT Manager/Special Projects Leader
Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc.
258 Beacon Street
Somerset, PA  15501




                                                                                
                                                        
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I'm gonna try one more time, can't believe I didn't get a single reply,
not even a flame!
Maybe it was my subject choice.......so here it goes again, thanks in
advance!




For as long as I can remember we have used MOVE operations following the
CLOSE (Stat 40)
of an Operation.  This has worked well, but in part of the shop we are
encountering some problems
related to work centers needing to start subsequent operations (more than
just the next op sometimes)
and how to manage the MOVES, especially relating to what quantity to
enter.

Ultimately I'd like to eliminate the MOVES, but the problem is that we
perform some validation based
upon the move-in quantity compared to the Qty Complete to Date + Scrap to
help ensure the close-out
quantity is accurate (+/- 12% margin) and this is where we are having the
problem on the practice
performing MOVES before the previous operation is closed.

If your current operation is for 500 pieces, after you complete, say 100,
move that quantity to the next
op, and to the next op when those are complete.  This results in 3 active
operations (that's ok) but there
is real confusion as to what the practice should be on the quantity
moved-in.  If they only move the
first 100, then the count is inaccurate, certainly for validation.  Also,
if they estimate the complete
quantity then that could lead to validation errors.  Bear in mind we do
incur scrap, which is why I don't
use the MO qty, plus some areas 'run out the bar' and exceed the MO qty
significantly.

To summarize, I'm interested in what some of you are doing, perhaps I'm
simply over-analyzing?
If you don't use the MOVE transaction, is the QTMVI field in MOROUT
populated?  How do you
'start' the Op, get it to go from 10 to 20?  We do not allow clocking onto
a stat 10 op via our
HighJump software and we like this validation to help guide the operators.


Thanks in advance for your opinions.
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