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Dennis, I'm confused by your comment "This group... will not be allowed to be part of the users conference..." I am presenting a customer's sessions; I know Dale G. is also; and probably several others. I have been to the last three UCs and met many group members. Just because the "MAPICS ERP System Discussion" list doesn't have an organized presence or presentation doesn't mean we're not there! You definitely have a chip on your shoulder about IBM and MAPICS - as someone else said, maybe it is time for a career change for you. I know I had to do some serious soul-searching several years ago after some particularly bad career choices. I finally realized that, yes the world is full of idiots and no, I can't do anything to change them, so I had to change myself and my attitude. As someone else pointed out, MAPICS is not an IBM product any longer, and if you are looking to IBM for support and problem resolution, you ain't a-gonna git it! "Imagine if Microsoft delivered Office2000 and it has as many problems as EPDM release after 2 years." Excuse me - which version of Office 2000 are YOU referring to? MS is notorious for putting out buggy software and letting the customers provide the post-Beta testing while trying to run their businesses with Office. Office 2000 is finally a descent versious of Office 95, which was horrendous. Just because MS markets each release as a "new" product doesn't change the fact that it takes them years to get it right! It took until Word 2000 to have almost all the functionality that WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS had! (Enough MS bashing for a Monday morning...) You describe yourself as a "lone wolf" - I would add the phrase "burned out" to that description. Good luck - life is too short to be as miserable as you have indicated you are with MAPICS. Joan McCready, IS Manager phone: 636-479-4499 MetalTek International fax: 636-479-3399 The Carondelet Division www.metaltekint.com 8600 Commercial Blvd Pevely, MO 63070 -----Original Message----- From: Denroxi@xxxxxxx [mailto:Denroxi@xxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 10:36 PM To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Beware what MAPICS sells you (from Mike Ellis / ISI for Dennis Guy Vailla... Ok, let us keep this going. The one reason this user group exist is because we do not get what we need from IBM in a timely manner.This group, I believe will not be allowed to be part of the users conference because we pose a competitive threat. Correct me if that rumor is wrong. I have 22+ years of MAPICS from the 34 -36-38--AS400-DB-XA. Companies of 25 people to re-implementing 7 plants in PR for GE. I have been through GMD, MARCAM and this newest way of marketing the products. MAPICS is a great product. It even was before we came up with the ERP buzz word. When this group becomes a group of MAPICS sycophants rather than a place to post our problems we need resolved because it is easier than IBM sales and support, I will admit that IBM sales and support delivery products and software that does not require PTF's out of the box. Imagine if Microsoft delivered Office2000 and it has as many problems as EPDM release after 2 years. EPDM is a great example of early product release with sales in mind, not out of the box functionality without many problems. So Gentleman, the beat goes on. How many of us have purchased a car from a salesman and have a problem. The salesman is tough to reach and refers you to service. Service the notifies you that the problem is not cover under your purchase agreement. You need to purchase this and that if you want what you need and thought you had originally purchased. GM or IBM, you choose. I know that of the 7000 or so MAPICS users, I am a lone wolf. Gooood Evvvvening Dennis Guy Vaillant _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l.
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