RE: security -- MAPICS-L

Yank away, Jeff! I haven't even taught my power users how to do queries - my
assistant and I are the only ones who know how... Not so much a security
issue as a way to stop "dueling greenbar reports" in meetings!

        -- Joan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Snyder [mailto:jeffreygsnyder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 8:41 AM
To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: security


you are preaching to the choir, it is not my place to question.

just wanted to see if there was a solution or not...not sure if you are 
saying 'NO, cant be done ??'

  PS:  Should we trust all employees ??, do you not use mapics security at 
all ??  or do we just trust the I.T. staff... ?? what about 'shop employees,

hmmm  can should we trust them tooo ???  just yanking your chain...

jeff






From: "McCready, Joan" <Joan.McCready@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'MAPICS ERP System Discussion'" <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: security
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 08:29:55 -0600

Jeff,

I would caution that any "lock down" of GELMAS and TEMGEN be done very
carefully. If security gets too tight, your client could have trouble with
backing up the files and applying PTFs.

I can understand the board's concerns, but at some point, who do they trust?
i.e. If they have no one on the IT staff that they feel they can trust NOT
to mess with the data in files, then maybe they need to hire some new IT
staff. If I was working for them, I'd certainly question whether I wanted to
continue working for them if they felt I was that unprofessional and not
trustworthy.

What is the security on their current GL system? How do they keep IT staff
from messing with those files? And are they sure their accounting staff is
as trustworthy as they apparently want their IT staff to be? ANYONE can be
tempted, y'know.

The point is, anyone with access can mess with a system. The board has a
legitimate concern, which needs to be addressed, but when do they cross the
line between being "security-minded" and being paranoid? We had a president
at our company who forbid us to set up e-mail and Internet access because he
was convinced that there was some high-school "punk" sitting "out there,"
just waiting to invade our system and steal our data... After he was
"dismissed," we installed e-mail and Internet access, with the proper
security to prevent problems and still allow employees to do their jobs.

OK, I'll get off my soapbox for now...

           -- Joan

Joan McCready, IS Manager      phone:  636-479-4499
MetalTek International         fax:  636-479-3399
The Carondelet Division        www.metaltekint.com
8600 Commercial Blvd
Pevely, MO  63070


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Snyder [mailto:jeffreygsnyder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:47 PM
To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: security


hey group,

   I am working with a sm privately held co, that has decide to put the G/L
pkg on the AS400,mapics XA rel 6.0.

   We can secure thru mapics CAS. but was looking for ideas about securing
the I.T. Staff... with regular users i can eliminate the cmd line , etc...
but the board, is asking about the I.T. staff, particulary GELMAS, and
TEMGEN.

any thoughts would be appreciated.

thanks

Jeff Snyder,  CPIM
Mapics consultant






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