RE: More on archiving COM orders -- MAPICS-L


Michael....why would MAPICS have to re-write the purge program?  Couldn't they
just allow you to pass the parameters and call the job?  Can it be done outside
of MAPICS?  It is really painful.




Michael.Franchino@cussys.com on 11/12/2001 11:15:22 AM

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Greg,

Remeber when your EDI job used to take forever? By upgrading your hardware
to a much bigger BATCH CPW, that job took much less time. I do agree that
the MAPICS program is flawed in design, and most definetly could be
improved if a human wrote the routine as opposed to SYNON, but just by
submitting the job to batch you get your full CPW of your machine which is
substantially faster than your interactive.. You would probably get 200
orders/minute to process.. It would still take an enourmous amount of time
to purge 200K orders, but it is a much easier work around than having
MAPICS re-write the flawed purge program.

Michael Franchino
Custom Systems Corporation
(973) 726-0202 X214 (Phone)
(973) 726-4552 (Fax)



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Greg,

We agree that it's not hardware. Michael is saying that part of it is
simply
due to MAPICS running the archiving as an interactive job rather than a
batch job, and I'm pointing out that that's not the only problem with the
software.

Dave Shaw
MAPICS-L Moderator
Rauch Industries, Inc.
Gastonia, NC

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Wenzloff [mailto:GWenzloff@beckmfg.com]
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You guys don't get it.    40 orders per minute is a software problem not a
hardware problem.
Greg

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Dave,

It is hard to say since Greg's 720 has 420 CPW for batch compared to 70 for
interactive.. That is a major difference..

Michael Franchino
Custom Systems Corporation
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Michael,

I agree that what you say may be part of Greg's problem, but I'd like to
add
two points:

At GNP, we were running on a model 500 and had no interactive penalty at
the
time, but it was still unacceptably slow.

Unless it's changed in the newer OS/400 releases, my observation on the
server and 7xx systems that I've played on was that if the system was
dedicated so that there was only one interactive job, the governor didn't
kick in. If this is still true, it does provide a work-around for some
customers, although obviously not all.

Dave Shaw
MAPICS-L Moderator
Rauch Industries, Inc.
Gastonia, NC

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael.Franchino@cussys.com [mailto:Michael.Franchino@cussys.com]

Greg,

The problem with the processing is that you have an interactive CPW that is
far less than the Batch CPW that your machine runs in.. Since MAPICS
decided that the purge must happen interactively, you are stuck..

MAPICS are you listening? This is a major problem that many customers
have.. Most don't archive because of this.. If you allow the purge to be
submitted, many customers machines full power can be used to blow through
these orders in much less time.

Michael Franchino
Custom Systems Corporation
(973) 726-0202 X214 (Phone)
(973) 726-4552 (Fax)
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