Re: Mapics 5.5 Payroll ver. ADP

My 2¢..

We are R6, have been using MAPICS payroll since I was probably in high
school!  Sure, we've
had our share of fiascos, primarily with TAX tables and such.  But it is
refreshing to know that
ultimately we are in control when there is a problem.  Nothing worse than
relying upon an outside
service staffed by morons who couldn't care less!  (Stop being so cynical, I
was referring to ADP
and such....)  We do all the regular stuff, 401K, bonuses, E-Payroll.

Interesting to see PAMS mentioned....we migrated to PERMS about 4 years ago
(Never looked
back!).  But since there is someone else using Phoenix products, I might
have to retaliate by
posing a question on PC&C history after the holiday.

BTW1..We run Phoenix PC&C History product.

BTW2...Have closed year end 8 times without problem or fail....in fact the
first time I
did it I could barely spell MAPICS. (and don't ask me what it stands for!).

BTW3....Name one system that isn't sold in vague terms to management.




----- Original Message -----
From: <gcrane@johansonmfg.com>
To: <MAPICS-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Mapics 5.5 Payroll ver. ADP


>
>
> We are at MAPICS rel 5....run Payroll since around 1989 or 1990.  We do
direct
> deposit and use PAMS for our Human Resouces.  It syncs with Payroll.   One
main
> advantage is the interface with General Ledger and the abiltiy to generate
> custom reports.  We maintain a history of detailed CURHRS that has come in
handy
> for Workman's Comp audit by the State.  Getting detailed inquiry/reports
of who
> worked on what jobs has been very beneficial when troubleshooting
problems.
> Also many queries to assist in what-if scenarios for bonus calculations,
raises,
> etc.  Can not get that from ADP....we used to have them with horrible
accuracy
> problems.....W2's were wrong and we almost sued them.  MAPICS Year end is
a
> pain, but MAPICS works consistently.  401K, tax deferred deductions,
garnishes,
> and Direct Deposit, etc. all work well.
>
> Like the AS400, Management gets sold by the stuff they read in the Wall
Street
> Journal or on the airplanes.  ADP and other service bureaus come in and
say they
> take on the headache, but someone in house still has to do the basics.
This
> gets overlooked in the Sales jargon.  Good luck to you.
>
>
>
>
> "David Shaw" <daveshaw@bellsouth.net> on 07/02/2001 09:17:01 PM
>
> Please respond to MAPICS-L@midrange.com
>
> To:   "MAPICS-L" <mapics-l@midrange.com>
> cc:    (bcc: Gail L Crane/Johanson/JMC)
>
> Subject:  Mapics 5.5 Payroll ver. ADP
>
>
>
> Forwarded by moderator on behalf of Richard Bryant <rbryant@quipp.com>:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Hi Group,
>
> Our HR person believes that MAPICS payroll is no good and wants to replace
> it with ADP. I know that MAPICS payroll might have some minor drawbacks
but
> do not believe we should shut it down and go with an outside payroll
> processing company. It seems that no one has been trained on MAPICS
payroll
> and the information on how to process payroll has been handed down from
the
> last three employees over the past 18 months. We are also tracking time
via
> data collectors and updating payroll automatically via PCM and an in house
> developed program. I have also suggested that we look into an HR package
> from Optimum Solutions as an add on to give the HR person the tools she
may
> need.
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1) Is anyone using a payroll processing company with MAPICS installed and
if
> so, which one?
>
> 2) What are your feelings about MAPICS payroll?
>
>
> Richard Bryant
> Quipp Systems Inc.
> IS Coordinator
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> rbryant@quipp.com
>
>
>
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