Re: Glassfish

Hi Glen,

this morning, so I thought I'd give it a try with a simple app using
the AS/400 and deployed to Glassfish.

Gotcha.

Re. Facelets, there's this, although I don't know how mature it is:

https://nbfaceletssupport.dev.java.net/

Yep, I used it, sort of. It's helpful for the first directory layout
and sort of for initial page layout, but some of his CSS assumptions really
burned me. I had weird things going on and it took me a while to discover
items he put in the included CSS file. Again, since I'm not very interested
in adding more baggage and lock down with the Rave components, it wasn't
helpful after that to me.

The jury's definitely still out on VWP, but some impressive progress was
made in recent weeks WRT performance and bugfixes in preparation for
NetBeans 6.0 (RC1 should be Monday). I still think it might be a
painless way to get RPG programmers onto the Java bandwagon in our
shop.

I think you're exactly right, in general. Most programmers, and I'm
speaking across the board, not just midrange people, are not going to put in
the time to become real experts. BTW, that's typical in any field. An IDE
or framework is a good thing to make them productive fairly quickly.

However, to cope with the other 20% of the application or of
applications, and things like scalability, optimization, tuning and so on, a
group should have staff or outside resources with the necessary expertise.
That's what I've seen as the shop of the future (or maybe close today) for
some time. IMO, results may vary, etc. So, my previous comments were not
meant to discourage at all and only apply with certainty to my own projects.


Joe Sam

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Holmer" <gholmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400"
<java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Glassfish

On Friday 09 November 2007 08:50, Joe Sam Shirah wrote:

> the app to the Linux server (my machine). Then when NetBeans
> deployed, he created the JDBC resources in the Glassfish instance
> with everything as it should be.

Hmmm, not sure I completely understand. I thought you were
setting up a connection pool. That's really outside the application
and available to all apps. So, the JDBC resources should have been
available when you set up the pool. I assume I'm missing something,
but the major thing is that it works for you. Good deal.

That was the first test :) I havent't repeated that one because I
couldn't get past the fact that Glassfish couldn't find the class for a
context listener that was definitely there. I was looking at VWP again
this morning, so I thought I'd give it a try with a simple app using
the AS/400 and deployed to Glassfish.

I haven't used Visual Web Pack for several reasons. The biggest
is that I'm using Facelets, which isn't supported by VWP. That
allows me to eliminate JSP (yay!) A close second is that with VWP,
you're tied to the Rave components. I use the RI whenever possible,
and am currently using RichFaces for special functionality and ajax
support. Plus, in the end, and this is just for my style of
programming, it doesn't really buy me much. But it's certainly a fast
way to get an 80% solution, which may be Good Enough.

Re. Facelets, there's this, although I don't know how mature it is:

https://nbfaceletssupport.dev.java.net/

The jury's definitely still out on VWP, but some impressive progress was
made in recent weeks WRT performance and bugfixes in preparation for
NetBeans 6.0 (RC1 should be Monday). I still think it might be a
painless way to get RPG programmers onto the Java bandwagon in our
shop.

Please keep us informed, and I'll let you know if I run into any
major snags on my project. So far, other than some grief figuring
out *exactly* what it wants for Active Directory LDAP authentication,
I haven't seen any real issues with Glassfish.

OK, and thanks again.

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