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Variables and objects aren't the same thing. Creating new objects is done by the "new" keyword and where the variables that refer to those objects are declared is irrelevant (at least as far as numbers of objects created is concerned). It's best to declare variables in the smallest scope possible (i.e. the second version). If you are going to use the first version, it would be better to initialize the variables to null. The code you have there creates five objects that are thrown away almost immediately. And in this case, since an Integer object is immutable, you could cut down on the number of objects created like this: Iterator iter = myList.iterator(); while (iter.hasNext()) { Integer total1 = new Integer(0); Integer total2 = total1; Integer total3 = total1; Integer total4 = total1; Integer total5 = total1; total1 = methodTotal1(); total1 = methodTotal1(); total1 = methodTotal1(); total1 = methodTotal1(); total1 = methodTotal1(); // write totals to PDF } But again, total1 is assigned the value of methodTotal1(), so whatever value it had before gets thrown away. Assuming that you didn't finish editing your posted code, an even better piece of code would be Iterator iter = myList.iterator(); while (iter.hasNext()) { Integer total1 = methodTotal1(); Integer total2 = methodTotal2(); Integer total3 = methodTotal3(); Integer total4 = methodTotal4(); Integer total5 = methodTotal5(); // write totals to PDF } in which no "new Integer(0)" objects are created to be immediately thrown away. HTH PC2 -----Original Message----- From: java400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:java400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of albartell Sent: June 16, 2005 07:52 To: 'Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400' Subject: Cost of instantiating I have been reading in different publications by well known authors about how we don't need to be as concerned about instantiating a few extra objects here and there because the processing in JDK1.5 is so much better than that of JDK1.3 (note that these comments have come in from the J2EE crowd). So I have an example I would like comments on below. In one I create my objects outside of the while loop and in the latter one I create the variables within my while loop. Note that I don't need to have access to the variables outside my while loop, but if I declare them outside the while loop I need to initialize them with each loop iteration. My question would be, do I save anything (meaning memory, CPU cycles, etc) by declaring my variables outside my while loop?
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