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Niall, How much joy have you had with hibernate. I have had a lot of problems getting it to do some stuff, especially stored procedures. For stored procedures I had to drop back to native SQL. I soon as I had to do that I lost the benefits of using hibernate in the first place. Apparently you can access stored procedures in the latest version, tried it, didn't work. The other thing that I found was that hibernates lazy loading is either a) very complex to setup, or b) just plain does not work, and I spent considerable time trying to get it to work. With these and other problems I gave up and switched to Ibatis. It was sooooo much easier, as you have control of the sql. The thing that put the nail in the hibernate coffin for me, is that when I had problems I posted questions on the hibernate forum. My questions were ignored? cheers Colin.W http://as400blog.blogspot.com Extension 5800 Direct dial 0870 429 5800 -----Original Message----- From: Niall.Smart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Niall.Smart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 04 January 2005 11:23 To: Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400 Cc: 'Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400'; java400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: DAO design pattern We use Hibernate here, it is extremely useful indeed. Anyone want to elaborate on the pros and cons of JDBC versus AS400File? Colin Williams <colin.williams@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: java400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 04/01/2005 11:23 Please respond to Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400 <java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "'Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400'" <java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: DAO design pattern Lim, Niall, And if you want to take this stuff even further, Use a framework such as Ibatis or Hibernate for your Object/Database mapping. Hard work initially, especially hibernate, but as your application gets complex, you do see the benefits cheers Colin.W http://as400blog.blogspot.com Extension 5800 Direct dial 0870 429 5800 -----Original Message----- From: Niall.Smart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Niall.Smart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 04 January 2005 10:59 To: Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400 Cc: java400-l-bounces+niall.smart=friendsfirst.ie@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400 Subject: Re: DAO design pattern Lim Create an interface which defines the data related operations independantly of any particular representation/access method (i.e., file/JDBC, etc) public interface SomeObjectDAO { public void create(SomeObject object) throws DAOException; public void delete(Integer objectID) throws DAOException; public SomeObject findByID(Integer objectID) throws DAOException; public List findByKeyword(String keyword) throws DAOException; } Then write an implementation of this interface using the JT/400 API: public class JT400SomeObjectDAO { public SomeObject findByID(Integer objectID) { AS400File file = .... SomeObject someObject = new someObject(); someObject.setFoo(file.readInteger()); return someObject; } // ... } And finally write a factory to create instances of SomeObjectDAO: public class SomeObjectDAOFactory { private static instance = new SomeObjectDAOFactory(); public static SomeObjectDAOFactory getInstance() { return instance; } public SomeObjectDAO newInstance() { return new JT400SomeObjectDAO(); } } You don't gave to use checked exceptions. A framework like spring can obviate the need for trivial factory objects. "Lim Hock-Chai" <Lim.Hock-Chai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: java400-l-bounces+niall.smart=friendsfirst.ie@xxxxxxxxxxxx 03/01/2005 18:40 Please respond to Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400 <java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400" <java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject DAO design pattern Anybody has a good example on how should I design my web application for any file access related transaction? 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