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Martin, We run WAS on our iSeries. I'm sure you will get lots of opinions but here are mine and our experiences: 1.) We were running on a 720 on V5R1 with barely adequate memory. The processor itself was cruising (typically below 50% utilization). Performance was questionable. There were times that we knew we were specifically dealing with memory issues when it came to performance. Bouncing the server nightly solved that problem. 2.) Upgraded to an 8xx with additional memory the problem went away. 3.) We did do some testing on a relatively beefy xSeries (235) with 4GB of memory. It was only slightly faster than our 720. I will admit we did not delve into it in any great detail. That was enough for us to say, we upgrading to the 820 for other purposes - let's wait and do that and see where we stand. 4.) Generally, WAS does not care where the data is. Personally, I think the performance gain with the xSeries was somehow offset by the network (100GB ETH). It really shouldn't be that significant but that might depend on your data access needs. 5.) Operationally, our lives are much simpler implementing it on the iSeries. However, I am biased and usually tend to look at our efforts and issues as being just as critical as the acquisition cost. TCO all the way. WAS takes very little of our CPU at this time. Based on your comments I would say a critical issue is whether or not you will be upgrading. As you may have noticed with some other discussions CPW and processor utilization don't really mean anything towards WAS - it's all processor speed and L2 cache. Also, I would be more concerned with not whether you have to activate another processor because of WAS but what if you have to activate another processor for something else....how much is WAS going to cost you? IBM's pricing for WAS really kind of stinks - but it was somewhat moot for us because we went with enterprise licensing on an 825. Decision wasn't as painful. HTH.....sorry for rambling. Mike Martin Rowe <martin@xxxxxxxxx To: ign_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx t> cc: Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400 <java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> bcc: 07/09/03 04:08 PM Subject: WepSphere Application Server platform choice Please respond to Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400 Hi all For those of you running WAS, what platform are you running it on? We're about to start development on a new order entry project that will use WebSphere and initially I just assumed we'd want WAS running natively on the iSeries. Then in talks with a BP about hardware upgrades (two 730s to upgrade by October), running WAS on an xSeries was mentioned. The BP had recently finished a project which had WAS on Linux on an xSeries, and it was performing very well. It got me thinking, as the cost of the extra RAM we'd need to put on the iSeries to cope with WAS should easily cover the cost of a suitably equipped Lintel server. Plus there's the cost of activating another processor if the extra WAS workload on the iSeries slowed other processes down. How much difference is there in running WAS on a different platform (or even LPAR) to the database (plus a large number of legacy RPG batch apps in our case). Is there much latency introduced or any other big disadvantages to non-native WAS? Does a lot depend on the type of workload - transactional vs enquiry etc? I'm sure we'll get good advice from the BPs involved, but I'd appreciate thoughts from those of you who've already gone down this route. Regards, Martin --
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