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  • Subject: RE: Java and CPU
  • From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:54:35 -0600
  • Importance: Normal

I think the startup time depends on the configuration, as well.  My
environment, which is admittedly (and purposely) very minimal, comes up in
about three minutes from scratch, and uses about 45 seconds of CPU time.
I've just got a little model 170, although it's fat on memory with 3GB.
However, Java always requires memory - my development workstation is 512MB.
And at about $4000/GB for the AS/400, even though it's pricier than PC
memory, I think memory is still cheap.

I do wish, though, that IBM could somehow put together a $20K machine that
had all the compiler tools, SQL, WebSphere (maybe just the standard
edition), Ethernet, 100GB of disk and 2-3GB of memory.  I'm getting the
equivalent machine, with less disk, and it's costing me about $60K.  That's
hard to sell to Mom and Pop.  But a $20K machine, I think they could sells
thousands, if not tens of thousands of such a configuration, especially if
they had some preconfigured applications.  And that's not a small chunk of
money.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-java400-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-java400-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of
> mandy.shaw@uk.catalyst-solutions.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:36 PM
> To: JAVA400-L@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Java and CPU
>
>
>
> It seems to me that WebSphere takes an extraordinary amount of time and
> resource to get started, and that the Admin Console uses a crazy amount of
> AS/400 resource, but that once it's up and running it's not at all greedy.
> So you need shedloads of main storage, but mainly just to start it up ...
> which I find frustrating when I'm recommending boxes to customers. It's
> fine if WAS is a strategic middleware product for them, but if this is
> their first WebSphere application & it has just a few servlets, they can't
> see why they should need all that resource, and you can't blame them. WAS
> 3.n has fabulous functionality, but I can't help thinking we could do with
> a 'baby' WAS offering as an entry level ... not to mention a green screen
> command configuration option a la Domino.
> Mandy

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