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Martyn, The Microsoft VM is one of the best on the market, and I think the Visual Dev Studio IDE is the best. But with MS announcing that they are not going to support J++, you may want to move in another direction. The greatest strength of J++ on Windows is their support of COM and the Windows APIs, but their database support is no better than any other platform, especially with the number of clients you are talking about. If your client is willing to stray from MS, try to sell using the vanilla Sun 1.2 release. Use JDBC with generic Java data retrieval and handling to allow for the future move to another database. Even better is to build data access wrappers to handle the JDBC calls. This really isolates your business logic from the database APIs. My rule is keep it simple and avoid proprietary packages. It helps keep maintenance costs low. For an IDE I have found Visual Cafe and Kawa to be 2 good tools, just stay away from their proprietary packages. If your client wants MS, J++ will work. You risk working with an unsupported product, but that may be alright for your client. The Java purists will tell you otherwise, but J++ is one of the best Java development tools on the market. Best of luck. Scott Chalmers Director of eCommerce Arkay Computer Consultants scott@arkayusa.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Martyn Oswin To: JAVA400-L@midrange.com Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 4:29 AM Subject: Visual J++ Hello, I am currently investigating the best tools to use to develop a Java based application that has to sit on top of an Access database that may in the future be replaced by SQLServer or Oracle 8i. The application will only ever run in a Windows environment and is to be used by one client only (about 10 concurrent users), so portability is not an issue. My client is a committed Microsoft site, but would like to start to use Java with MS Visual J++. Is Micro$oft's Visual J++ product any good? Is it worth taking the time to invest in learning this product. Are their any pitfalls to be aware of? What is the future of this product now that Mirco$oft are investing in C#? Any feed back will be gratefully appreciated. Regards Martyn Oswin Business: 0115 9230140 Mobile : 07778 833290 E_Mail : MartynOswin@CompuServe.Com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +--- | This is the JAVA/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to JAVA400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to JAVA400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to JAVA400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: joe@zappie.net +---
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