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  • Subject: Re: Visual J++
  • From: Scott Chalmers <sr_chalmers@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:09:20 -0700 (PDT)

Martyn,

The Microsoft VM is one of the best on the market, and
I think the Visual Dev Studio IDE is the best. But
with MS announcing that they are not going to support
J++, you may want to move in another direction. The
greatest strength of J++ on Windows is their support
of COM and the Windows APIs, but their database
support is no better than any other platform,
especially with the number of clients you are talking
about.

If your client is willing to stray from MS, try to
sell using the vanilla Sun 1.2 release. Use JDBC with
generic Java data retrieval and handling to allow for
the future move to another database. Even better is to
build data access wrappers to handle the JDBC calls.
This really isolates your business logic from the
database APIs. My rule is keep it simple and avoid
proprietary packages. It helps keep maintenance costs
low. For an IDE I have found Visual Cafe and Kawa to
be 2 good tools, just stay away from their proprietary
packages.

If your client wants MS, J++ will work. You risk
working with an unsupported product, but that may be
alright for your client. The Java purists will tell
you otherwise, but J++ is one of the best Java
development tools on the market.

Best of luck.

Scott Chalmers
Director of eCommerce
Arkay Computer Consultants
scott@arkayusa.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Martyn Oswin 
To: JAVA400-L@midrange.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 4:29 AM
Subject: Visual J++


Hello,

I am currently investigating the best tools to use to
develop a Java based application that has to sit on
top of an Access database that may in the future be
replaced by SQLServer or Oracle 8i. The application
will only ever run in a Windows environment and is to
be used by one client only (about 10 concurrent
users), so portability is not an issue. My client is a
committed Microsoft site, but would like to start to
use Java with MS Visual J++.

Is Micro$oft's Visual J++ product any good? Is it
worth taking the time to invest in learning this
product. Are their any pitfalls to be aware of? What
is the future of this product now that Mirco$oft are
investing in C#?

Any feed back will be gratefully appreciated.

Regards

Martyn Oswin

Business: 0115 9230140
Mobile   :  07778 833290
E_Mail   :  MartynOswin@CompuServe.Com

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