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I raised a PMR with IBM recently to ask for an exclusion parameter to be
added to compact so you can exclude system databases and others if required
like you can with scheduled replication. Currently, although we compact
log.nsf (as well as admin4 and names) off-line each week, the regular
compact still hits them when there is absolutely no need and causes server
hangs.

The response was that with 8.5, a facility is being added to ignore system
files when running compact. No more details were known in terms of how
this feature is controlled but it sounds promising and is long overdue.

In the meantime, running an off-line compact does make the next compact
faster although not if you're using the -c parameter as this creates a new
copy and is where the previous comment about renaming comes in. If you use
-b (which is the recommended method with transaction logging) this will
not be a problem but it won't save you any space of course (but keeps the
db more efficient as extending it at OS level takes up extra CPU cycles).


Brian


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Just a thought - I had to compact/fixup my mail file this morning - but I
did it while logged on as the Admin.

Don't know if that's an option for you, but just thought I'd share. (And I
see you are working with names.nsf - which is not the same thing I did
this morning.)

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----- Message from rob@xxxxxxxxx on Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:06:12 -0400 -----

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According to the following, there is a time in the compact where it
creates a compacted copy of the original. Takes the original offline and
renames the copy to the original. Running a task during this may cause
undesirable results.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21098396

Problem statement: How do I get adminp to run on a timely basis when it
aborts?
Now we know how it aborts. How do I work around that?
- Never run compact.
- Bring down server and run compact in a dedicated mode.
- Check to see if adminp is running periodically. If not, then load it
back up.

I might be able to whip out the third option with api's. However, is
there some way to do that with a monitor or some such animal?

Rob Berendt
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"The database is being taken off-line and cannot be opened" has to do with

with transaction logging on databases, I believe...

If you disable transaction logging, does Adminp work OK?

Just an idea...
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10/08/2008 03:10:00 Running Program document for 'COMPACT -L'
...
10/08/2008 13:53:22 Compacting names.nsf (DEKKO's Address Book)
10/08/2008 13:53:33 Admin Process: File name: The database is being
taken off-line and cannot be opened.
10/08/2008 13:53:35 Compaction failed: Unable to delete
/NOTES03/NOTES/DATA/names.nsf: The database is in use and cannot be taken
off-line.
10/08/2008 13:53:35 Error compacting names.nsf: The database is in use
and cannot be taken off-line.
10/08/2008 13:53:36 Administration Process shutdown
...
LOAD ADMINP
LOAD ADMINP
10/09/2008 12:56:16 Admin Process: NOTES01/DEKKO is the Administration
Server of the Domino Directory.
10/09/2008 12:56:16 Administration Process started

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----- Message from rob@xxxxxxxxx on Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:16:11 -0400 -----

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Is there a way to "LOAD COMPACT" but tell it to do all EXCEPT ...? Sort
of like an omit on a savobj command?


Rob Berendt
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How does one submit a request for design change in Domino like we can for
i?
https://www-912.ibm.com/r_dir/ReqDesChange.nsf/Request_for_Design_Change?OpenForm


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Is there a way to "LOAD COMPACT" but tell it to do all EXCEPT ...? Sort
of like an omit on a savobj command?


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