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Mike, We've "paid" for BRMS also. But some of our Domino servers are Windows. Those are the ones that we would be backing up with Tivoli. But if we actually used our BRMS, then yes, BRMS has a way to do Domino live. However, we bring our servers down nightly. Gives us a chance to test our clustering. I appreciate your anger at Al Zollar. Take a guy in charge of iSeries marketing and move him to Tivoli marketing and his first order of business is to drop support for Tivoli on i5/os. Want to keep it on i5 - then fire up a Linux lpar. Tivoli used to be native on os/400. Then they went to that PASE garbage. The tape api's in pase were pathetically slow and they had no intention of speeding them up. And admitted to both. Now they're down to linux or aix on i. If they drop native support for Domino and start going to pase you can see the death of that on i5/os coming. I repeat "if". After they hosed us on TSM, and we paid for it as part of the "express package", then they drop support for it on i5/os... yuck. Rob Berendt
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