Re: Heads up

Rob, good post on ENDJOBABN. I want to add that I have actually seen it 
apply the MF ptfs but not the software ones. I have had to ENDJOBABN 
previously on some Domino stuff after a server hang.

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domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 
10/06/2006 02:39:37 PM:

1 - Did you open a pmr on this?
2 - Obviously you tried option 6 in WRKDOMSVR to end the server
immediately, otherwise the ENDJOBABN will not go.

Bad thing that happens:  Let's say you load a cume on.  Tell it to IPL.
What happens is that none of your ptf's got applied.  Actually, some MF
ptf's are now "supposed" to apply in this situation.  But no SI* types
will.  You do a DSPSYSVAL QABNORMSW.  You see 1=Abnormal,  ENDJOBABN 

will

set QABNORMSW to this value at the next IPL and ptf's will not apply. 

Fix

is to run another IPL.  And, to never assume your ptf's did apply.  I 

have

an extensive checklist after the application of ptf's.

http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh121503-story04.html
http://www.itjungle.com/tfh/tfh120103-story04.html

Scan also the cover letter of any cume package for QABNORMSW
http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/sline003.
nsf/2d3aff1c6b4d6ce086256453000d971e/c680d1282280531586257165004ac874?
OpenDocument

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OK -- can you give some details on why ENDJOBABN is a baaaaad thing ?

Occasionally on our QP server, the HTTP task hangs and the server won't
come down -- in that case I use an ENDJOBABN on the HTTP job and then
restart the server.  What am I impacting by doing that ?

Bob

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Yeah, ENDJOBABN is a last resort for that reason. The 10 minute rule is
good!

Chris Whisonant
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Solutions

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domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on
10/06/2006 01:13:17 PM:

Let me clear this.  option 90 worked.  Option 2 didn't.  On the batch

job,

a simple ENDJOB *IMMED worked.  I hate ENDJOBABN unless necessary -

screws

up ptf's on the next IPL.  IBM did a fine job of forcing you to wait 

10

minutes on an ENDJOB before even allowing you to ENDJOBABN.

Good idea on the DMPCLLSTK.  Might have to run that from another 

session

against the job doing the DMPSVRSTKS to find out why that job hung.

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OUCH!!

Do you have DMPCLLSTK? You could try that several times against the
DMPSVRSTKS jobs to get a trace of what the DMPSVRSTKS may be doing.

What about ENDJOBABN?

Chris Whisonant
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domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on
10/06/2006 12:55:00 PM:

Don't want to open a new pmr now, but I've had two processes hang

lately

on a DMPSVRSTKS in a batch job.  Different iSeries completely.
Domino 6.5.4fp3 on V5R4.

Hang was no msgw or anything.  Well, one was a batch job.  The

interactive

one stuck in that qshell screen.  No amount of enter, etc cleared it

off.

Sys-Req, option 90 to sign off.  Option 2 wouldn't even break it.

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