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My first guess was like yours Rob, but I just talked to support and they gave me some more info. Because the cluster replication is 'event driven', the initial replication to the cluster mates is a push type replication that is driven by the initial DB change. Once that even occurs, it wouldn't necessarily be driven to occur again to another replica that shows up there later (like in our guess). Lotus support said that all that is necessary to cause the replicas to get the offline server back in synch is a simple replicate command, THEN the DBs will hash it out. So: Users to backup server Main server shutdown Test server up DB activity on backup server DB activity replicates to test server Tests done Test server shutdown Main server back up Main server still missing DB activity Replicate command issued for server (ex. REPLICATE MAIN) Replicas bring Main server DBs to current state Users back to Main server I wanted to make sure I posted what I found out... so there it is! For this upgrade, I think my testing is going to be more complex than the actual migration... rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent by: domino400-bounces To +chadb=wheeling-n Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 isshin.com@midran <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ge.com cc Subject 07/26/2006 01:49 Re: New Machine Domino Testing PM (involving cluster) Please respond to Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@midran ge.com> I believe so. Perform a simple test Create a new database Replicate this database on to a different server. Backup the database on the new server. Make some changes to the database on the primary. Replicate it over to the backup server DBCACHE FLUSH on the backup server delete the database on the backup server restore from backup replicate again and see if your changes appear. I bet they will. I am trying to guess how they do replication. I am betting there isn't some huge server file that keeps track of which field in which file has been replicated. Nor do I wish to believe that there is a id in the "primary" field that says "this field has been replicated to servers A,C,F" I am taking a big WAG that there is a replica hash much like the table replica id. And if the replica hash isn't identical then somehow Domino quickly finds the changes. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: domino400-bounces+rob=dekko.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx 07/26/2006 10:18 AM Please respond to Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject New Machine Domino Testing (involving cluster) Next month we will be installing and bringing live a new model 520+ that runs our 'main' Domino server and Websphere setup. We are clustered with another iSeries based Domino server that we consider the 'backup' Domino server (we keep users off it normally with SERVER_RESTRICTED=2 unless we specifically want users on this server instead). We can easily control which server our apps and email are currently flowing to via DNS and firewall changes. Since we've gone to the clustered setup, it's been easy to test Domino releases and such, because we can switch the users over to the 'backup' Domino server and test things on the other server while it's not actively serving apps or receiving live email. This new box brings a slightly different challenge to my testing plans... I want to try and test as much as possible on the new box before doing a final save/restore migration, but don't want to get in any trouble with cluster replication, etc. With that long-winded intro having been said, my main question is this: If we are running on the backup server and have our current main server shut down, and then plug the new server into the network for testing the cluster will replicate items from the currently live backup server into the new test server's databases (it will be a restore of the main server and identical in IP address, etc.). Once we are finished testing, we will disconnect the new test server and then bring up the current main server again. Will the transactions that occurred on the backup server while the main server was down all replicate back to the main server even if some of them also replicated to the test server when it was connected? Any thoughts are appreciated... _______________________________________________ This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. _______________________________________________ This is the Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) mailing list To post a message email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/domino400 or email: Domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/domino400. _____________________________________________________________________________ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. 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