AMEN to your comments about a Windows file share for ID files.  You would
be relaying on Microsoft's security features.

We actually have secure database with all ID files.  It is protected by
Domino directory ACLs (db link so you need to actually find it if you were
to try from the OS level), db ACLs, local encryption, enforced ACLs and a
database secret key.  Very few people have access to this file.  Finally,
these people do not even have access to the system administrator's ID
archives - only management.  Security hole is the people you are trusting
with this access.

I am saying it is completely secure?  Nah, just extremely hard to get the
data.  You really have to want the data.  The most secure method would be
not to archive IDs and if someone loses theirs.... SOL!!!

I do believe if I had access to a primary directory with ID files, I can
get the IDs.  The only thing preventing me from cracking an ID password is
time.  Granted a sys admin ID can't get to the file system but it can get
to all the mail files if said ID has the ability to enable Full Access
Administration.  Why would I need OS access if I can delete everything from
an Admin client.

Again, I am trying to say my way is the best way.  Nah, I am just offering
my view on best practices.

Eric Waters


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C +API tool to hack a notes id? LOL.....  That tool does a dictionary

Nothing special about that. The only thing is special is they bypassed the

What security does the user ID have to the system? Say an Admin ID?

I would be interested in seeing how you can get the NAB off of the server
if you do not have access to the server.
The owner of all of objects is QNOTES. Kind of hard to get the file to pull
the id out of it. I also am using encrypted NABs
on my mail servers as well so even if you got the NAB you could not open it
with another notes client.

The NAB on my servers is not accessible from the web,  default and
anonymous is NO ACCESS. We don't store IDs there anyway.
We store them elsewhere and of course on the PCs with the notes client,
such as my admin id on the PC I am using to
compose this email. So if you hacked my Windows Laptop then stole my id,
would it not be Windows Security that is the issue?
The only way to get and ID  is via a Microsoft Windows Hack to steal the ID
off of a PC. Then run this PASSWARE tool
to hack the id password.

The answer would be not to use Windows and notes IDs? That would not be

Don't keep IDs on computers anywhere? That would not be practical.

No networked computers works as well ala "Battle Star Gallactica"????  We
all know we can do anything without networking..............

lf you are concerned about notes id security then the  answer is to not
have the notes IDs stored anywhere, and use a smartcard or biometric id
instead of a standard notes id. If your NAB is secured properly it is much
safer than on a Windows File Server or on a Windows PC...........

Here are some products that add that extra layer of ID security. Notes
supports smart cards and Bio-Metic ID systems.

ActivCard Gold 2.2 product
Gemplus 3.1 product
Gemplus 2.0 product
Rainbow iKey 2032 product
Schlumberger Cyberflex 4 product

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