RE: Spam Filter -- DOMINO400

Jeff Crosby gave the 150-200 message number, not me.  We do not have hard 
numbers because they do not have reports yet, but just going by before and 
after stats in our mail logs we are receiving thousands fewer messages a 
day.

Your concerns are all valid, and they are things you would need to take to 
the service provider.  They did have good answers for all of them.  We 
have sent ourselves test emails from outside accounts and they arrive 
virtually instantly so any delay is really small.

Mark


domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 02/09/2004 04:31:36 PM:

> Mark,
> 
> Something doesn't add up.  How did you personally drop from 200-300 
spams 
> a day, and yet CleanMessage only catches 150-200 messages a day?  And is 

> that 150-200 messages a day for all of softlanding?
> 
> Like the other fellow said, we get thousands blocked from the nice 
> blacklisting features of R6.  That and the fantastic option to make sure 

> that the email is a valid recipient on our end before clogging up the 
> mail.box.
> 
> Yet we, too, still get enough spam to consider other measures.  Boss 
says 
> that Sprint might do it either real cheap or no charge, I forget.  He's 
> pursuing that at this time.  I did forward this $1/month service.
> 
> Any concerns about a third party either:
> 1)  Being down, and thus stopping your email?
> 2)  Adding a performance hit on your turnaround?
> 3)  Gleaning information?
> 
> Rob Berendt
> -- 
> Group Dekko Services, LLC
> Dept 01.073
> PO Box 2000
> Dock 108
> 6928N 400E
> Kendallville, IN 46755
> http://www.dekko.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Mark Phippard" <MarkP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> Sent by: domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 02/09/2004 03:25 PM
> Please respond to
> Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> 
> To
> Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> cc
> 
> Fax to
> 
> Subject
> RE: Spam Filter
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> 
> Good, the more that ask ....
> 
> On the other hand it is kind of funny how the first week or so we used 
it 
> we had all of these ideas/needs and then quickly we were just on to 
other 
> things enjoying the remarkable lack of SPAM in our inboxes and not 
> worrying about that stuff.
> 
> I think the ones they told us were coming relatively soon were:
> 
> 1)  Reports
> 
> 2)  Web interface.  User could log in and turn off the option to have 
> quarantined spam list mailed to them, and instead just visit the web 
> interface when/if they wanted to release a message.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 02/09/2004 03:09:06 PM:
> 
> > > I get the impression from dealing with them that CleanMessage 
> > > is in the fairly early stages of offerring a service as they 
> > > seem to have a lot of features being planned.  For example, 
> > > currently they do not have a web interface to configure 
> > > settings and they do not have any options to provide us with 
reports.
> > > 
> > > That being said, the service has worked great from day one 
> > > and everyone has been real happy with it.  Personally, I went 
> > > from 200-300 spams a day to less than 5, and often zero.
> > 
> > We're going through a trial with CleanMessage.  I too am very pleased 
> with
> > the results.  150-200 messages a day being caught by them.
> > 
> > It's interesting what you had to say regarding services they may 
offer. 
> I
> > was going to call them today and make a couple of suggestions.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jeff Crosby
> > Dilgard Frozen Foods, Inc.
> > P.O. Box 13369
> > Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369
> > 260-422-7531
> > 
> > The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily the opinion of 
my
> > company.  Unless I say so.
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > [mailto:domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Phippard
> > > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 3:03 PM
> > > To: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400
> > > Subject: Re: Spam Filter
> > > 
> > > No, it does not touch outgoing mail.  There are many other 
> > > services out there, and some of them do that.  I believe that 
> > > http://www.messagelabs.com/ is one such service.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > JWGrant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent by: domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > 02/09/2004 02:45 PM
> > > Please respond to
> > > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To
> > > Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > cc
> > > 
> > > Subject
> > > Re: Spam Filter
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> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mark;
> > > 
> > > I was looking at the clean message service and it sound interesting.
> > > Does it also scan outbound mail?
> > > 
> > > Jim
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >              "Mark Phippard" 
> > >              <MarkP@softlandin 
> > >              g.com> 
> > >           To 
> > > 
> > >              Sent by:                  Lotus Domino on the 
> > > iSeries / AS400 
> > > 
> > >              domino400-bounces         <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> > >              @midrange.com 
> > >           cc 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >      Subject 
> > > 
> > >              02/09/2004 02:40          Re: Spam Filter 
> > >              PM 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >              Please respond to 
> > >               Lotus Domino on 
> > >                the iSeries / 
> > >                    AS400 
> > >              <domino400@midran 
> > >                   ge.com> 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The easiest thing to by far is to either stick an "appliance" 
> > > between your
> > > mail server and the Internet or perhaps even better a "service".
> > > 
> > > We are using the latter: http://www.cleanmessage.com/  It 
> > > costs $1/month
> > > per user with no obligations.  Great thing is that the 
> > > traffic never even
> > > comes to your network.
> > > 
> > > There are a lot of appliances out there as well, if you have a lot 
of
> > > users they might be cost effective.  This is one we were 
> > > going to look at:
> > > 
> > > http://www.barracudanetworks.com/products.php
> > > 
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > > 
> > > domino400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 02/09/2004 02:17:15 PM:
> > > 
> > > > Is anyone aware of a spam filter for Domino for the 400?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > Mark D. Walter
> > > > Senior Programmer/Analyst
> > > > CCX, Inc.
> > > > mwalter@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > http://www.ccxinc.com
> > > >
> > > >
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