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We viewed the files in the iSeries Navigator and it reported them as
roughly 2GB total in size.  The largest was 550MB.  We summed up the
individual file sizes to get the total size.

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How did you know that they were taking up 2GB of space?  (I have an issue
in which iSeries Navigator has a decimal problem in reporting file sizes
over a certain size.  IBM can't understand why I would have an IFS object
that big.  I told them that I have three separate IBM off-the-shelf
products that create files this big:  Domino, Tivoli Storage Manager and
Integrated Netfinity xSeries.  To IBM 4.8GB or 48GB, no real difference
right?

Anyway, back to you.  You might have stumbled into something that cleared
up something else.  Tough to tell now that your PRTDSKINF, DSPSYSSTS,
threshold, etc match.

Hey, if you
CRTMSGQ MSGQ(QSYSMSG) TEXT('Critical system messages')
(QSYSMSG is a special message queue.  Upon creation certain critical
messages sent to QSYSOPR are automatically duped into that message queue.)

Is this threshold message one of these 'critical' messages?  If so, then
perhaps you could trigger a program to do a RTVDSKINF upon that message.
Well, I just checked a machine that had this message a month ago.  It's
still there - CPF0907.

There's people who peddle packages to do all sorts of things based on
message queue's etc.  Page you, start jobs, polish your shoes...

Rob Berendt
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Not sure what I'm looking for, but my screen matches your sample exactly
for all 30 units.  The initial screen that came up shows all units at
63.9%
used.  To my knowledge, the "out of space" error hasn't shown up since we
removed that 2GB of files from the server -- not that it should have shown
up then.

Patrick



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WRKDSKSTS
F11=Display storage use

Sample screen:
           --Protection--
Unit  ASP  Type  Status    Compression
   1    1  DPY   ACTIVE
   2    1  DPY   ACTIVE
...

That works for the traditional concept of ASP or Auxiliary Storage Pool.
However, I don't know how that works with IASP or Independent Auxiliary
Storage Pool.


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I'm not sure what you mean -- I didn't realize you could have multiple set
up.  But then, I'm not much of an iSeries technician -- how would I check
for multiple ASP's?

Patrick



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Do you have multiple ASP's configured possibly ?

Bob




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I collected the data for that report this morning at 10:47AM.  I did run
the *SYS report.

Patrick

                                                 % of         Size in
 Description                                     Disk     1,000,000 bytes
 User libraries                                 30.38           67855.49
 User directories                               25.58           57135.46
 Folders and documents                            .10             229.63
 QSYS                                             .80            1789.40
 Other IBM libraries                             3.07            6863.82
 Licensed Internal Code                          2.05            4589.11
 Temporary space                                 1.27            2843.15
 Unused space                                   36.48           81481.69
 System internal objects                          .12             272.91
 Objects not in a library                         .00                .10
 TOTAL                                          99.85          223060.76



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1)  I'd be interested if there was a limit on IFS storage, since:
a)  QSYS.LIB is in the IFS
b)  We have quite a chunk in non QSYS.LIB info:
                                                % of         Size in
Description                                     Disk     1,000,000 bytes
User libraries                                 43.57         1064808.38
User directories                               38.36          937569.05
Folders and documents                            .04            1092.32
QSYS                                             .23            5604.56
Other IBM libraries                              .62           15066.22
Licensed Internal Code                           .26            6439.03
Temporary space                                  .45           10889.83
Unused space                                   15.99          390765.85
System internal objects                          .27            6567.70
Objects not in a library                         .00                .00
TOTAL                                          99.79         2438802.94

2)  From your GO DISKTASKS report, what was the date/time on the
"Information collected" line?
Did you print the *SYS report?

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I have it -- how much of the message are you looking for?  The only
variable data that I see is the total amount of storage (223GB), the
amount
used (220GB), the threshold (90%), and the amount available (1.1%).  But,
as I said, the values don't jive with what I'm seeing anywhere else.  I
pulled a report from GO DISKTASKS to make sure that I wasn't missing
something, and it comes back with "36% available."

I neglected to mention that the large files I was looking at were in the
IFS, if that makes a difference.  One of the theories that came up here
was
that there is a limit on IFS storage and we were near to exceeding that
amount.

Patrick



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Do you have the message from DSPLOG or DSPMSG QSYSOPR?  I am curious to
see what was filled in on the variable data.

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I'm trying to figure out something without any success.  Here's hoping
some
of our more experienced Domino for the iSeries admins can point me in the
right direction.  My apologies if this gets a little long.

I'm seeing a lot of CPF0907 errors in my logs -- "Serious storage
condition
may exist. Press HELP" - in fact, there was one every hour all day
yesterday.  I didn't see the error in the logs until this morning when I
was troubleshooting something else.  The strange thing is that I ran a
WRKSYSSTS twice yesterday for other reasons and noted that the system
storage was right at 65% both times.  This morning, when the error was
still happening, it was still at 65%.  Our threshold is set at 90%, so
this
error shouldn't be coming up, according to all documentation that I have
found.

One of our developers had some files in a directory in the IFS that were
generated early yesterday.  Since they are the only sizable changes that
we
could find, we removed them from the system and the messages stopped
coming.  The thing is, the files were less than 2GB total, and there was
more than 50GB of space available before we hit threshold.

What's going on here?

Possibly related, and the reason I was looking at the logs closer, is that
our Domino server stopped responding early yesterday evening for no reason
that I can find.  I've seen Domino servers stop processing SMTP when the
storage reached 90%, but I've never seen the entire system stop.  Near as
I
could tell, everything continued to function, but the processes were all
at
0% in WRKACTJOB and there was not a single entry in the logs for over an
hour.  I had to restart the Domino server after an END *IMMED.  I'm still
trying to figure out what happened there, but the only errors I can see
are
related to the END *IMMED, nothing jumps out as a reason for the Domino
stoppage.

Any thoughts, suggestions, pointers welcome.  I've been surfing redbooks,
but if you have a recommendation for a reference that might point me in
the
right direction, I'm all ears.  Figuratively, of course.

Thanks for reading,
Patrick

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