Re: CODE400 library list in WDSc environment

[Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hak, et al., if this was not meant for public consumption, I am glad it got 
out, nonetheless. I am glad for your forthright responses to our questions. 
Yet this response does not bode well for the promise that we will have all 
the functionality of CODE (and more!!!!) in RSE.

For all the 'weakness' of SEU and PDM, they are still tremendous tools, 
with capabilities that are still not found in either CODE or RSE. E.g., how 
do you search all members of MULTIPLE source files in either client? It's 
easy in PDM.

iSeries projects look like a nice organizational feature but they do not 
know how to deal with iSeries source members, not really. They treat them 
all as *.MBR files, IIRC, and do not link with CODE by source type - it's 
been awhile since I gave up on that direction.

You all in Toronto give us many good ideas on how to do things. But some 
seem like gee-whiz when I want the basic stuff as easy to do as it id in 
green screen methods - ye, there is a learning curve - but things are just 
not always so obvious.

In an enterprise as big as IBM and with the long history of 
S38/AS400/iSeries, it is easy for things to get lost - why was this or that 
done. Operations Navigator is an example of significant function lost 
because its developers did not have enough real-world input - at least 
that's what I have to infer. E.g., if I want to change attributes multiple 
spooled files on a green screen, I put a '2' on each one, put the common 
parameters I want to change on the command line, press Enter, and all get 
changed. There is no similar mechanism in Ops Nav - there, a dialog is 
raised for each spooled file, and I have to make the change individually - 
but even Microsoft knows better - if you are in Explorer and select 
multiple objects, then display Properties, one dialog is raised, and only 
common properties are enabled for change.

Please get real-world developers, hard-core PDM/SEU users in the design & 
development flow. Not internal IBMers, not even iSeries developers - many 
of whom could not sign on to an iSeries to save their life (SLIC developers 
work mostly on AIX and are just flatly not that familiar with iSeries from 
an end-user point of view - understandable and lamentable, IMO).

<REQUEST>
What would be useful is something like what Microsoft came out with - help 
for WordPerfect users - how you do WP things in MS Word. Give us a 
cross-reference of PDM/SEU function against CODE/RSE functionality - to 
enable our transition. As I said, this stuff is not always obvious. I, for 
one, would be saved ranting if such a document existed. And sit with a 
real-world developer awhile, to see all he/she does.
</REQUEST>

Thanks for listening to my venting and pleas.

Vern

At 08:25 AM 4/4/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> Don: I have never thought about the RSE scenario.  Thanks!