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Batthish, I, in fact, DO have a supportline contract. However, every time I report what I think is a defect, one or both of two things happens: 1.I am requested to research the problem myself and provide addtional documentation as to the nature of the beast, along with "experimenting" on various "fix" scenarios, all of which takes a great deal of my time and rarely results in a solution. 2.I am presented with a bill from IBM support for the time the IBM'ers spent on the phone with me. Neither of these solutions is desirable, and just serves to increase our level of frustration. When I review the correspondence in the newsgroups, I see, often, that I am not the only one reaching this level of frustration. It is SO frustrating that, in the end, I resort to less than functional work-arounds, just to try and get something accomplished in my day (which is not supposed to be spend testing IBM software that SHOULD be working), and also I end up NOT reporting the problems as I don't have the time nor do I have the inclination to fight with IBM Support Line's billing department, documenting and justifying why I SHOULD NOT be paying that particular bill since the problem is not a usage problem but a product defect. Look, this is a potentially GREAT piece of software, and I am happy that someone continues to work on it an make it better. But the problem reporting channels need to be improved. Thanks for letting me vent... Ric LuBell -----Original Message----- From: batthish@ca.ibm.com [mailto:batthish@ca.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 12:17 PM To: CODE400-L@midrange.com Subject: How to open an APAR Hi folks, This is the information which I have on how to have a problem reported to IBM (I think that the phone numbers are only for the US): If customer wants to report problem via voice and talk to someone, Customer has to call AS400 Software Support on 1-800-237-5511 . Customer must have a supportline contract (monthly or hourly). Alternatively, Customers may submit defect problem via the Internet, no contract is required. The AS400 Customer uses the as400service.ibm.com website Problem Reporting to report a defect. The PMR comes into the NETCMC queue, which is monitored by the AS400 Internet Support Facility, entitlement checking will be done, then routed to the appropriate technical queue. - If the customer has a contract, it will be selected. - If the customer does not have a contract, Unentitled Support Line will be selected. Alternatively, PROBLEMS SUBMITTED VIA FAX Customers may submit problems via FAX to 1-800-288-9584. All incoming FAXes will be reviewed by Call Services Center (CSC) personnel to determine if the FAX is for a PTF request or a new or existing problem. The CSC will do entitlement checking, FAX back an acknowledgment, create a call record if appropriate and queue the call to the proper Rochester or non-Rochester location, using a call routing tool. thanks, Violaine Batthish CODE/400 Project Lead batthish@ca.ibm.com IBMCA(BATTHISH) CODE/400 page: http://www.ibm.com/software/ad/varpg WDT/400 Support : http://www.ibm.com/software/ad/wdt400/update_downloads.html +--- | This is the CODE/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to CODE400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to CODE400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to CODE400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: larry@paque.net +---
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