RE: CODE Designer woes -- CODE400-L

Claudio,
Unfortunately, timing is of the essence... I am an avid user of Code/400
since it's inception, despite it's bugginess and problems. Time comes when
one MUST upgrade their hardware (PC). At that time, you go into the market
place and try to come up with the best deal on a new PC.  I came up with a
933mHZ 125mb 20gb IBM Net Vista w/CDRW drive.  Looked for all intents and
purposes as a really powerful unit, and the price was right. Unfortunately,
it was not offered with Windows 2000.  I figured to use V3M2R3 Code/400 on
it, but the problem there was that, due to one of the "bugs" regarding
NetQuestion and Help, I didn't really trust that product on the new PC.
Then, our shop went to V4R5 of OS/400, and it seemed that moving up to the
new Websphere Development Tools might help eliminate my "Help" problem, so
it seemed a natural migration.  Only after that did I find out how extremely
difficult it was to install the product, running into error after error (see
the newsgroup for the littany of woes regarding installation.  I called for
support, informing them up front that the O/S was WinME, and they spent a
couple of hours attempting to help me get it installed before contacting
someone somewhere who came back with "Windows ME???? Nah, we don't support
that!!!"  So IBM bailed on the problem, leaving me with a new PC purchased
for the purpose of using Code (or WDT) and being unable to get the product
installed.  Again, I have been forced into a workaround of using Code V3M2R3
WITHOUT HELP TEXT and praying that each time I boot up Project or DSU or
Multi-file Search it doesn't lock up my PC forcing me to reboot and lose a
lot of work.  I repeat my earlier complaint of "VERY FRUSTRATING".  

As for your assertion that it is not IBM's job to keep up with Microsoft's
operating systems, I believe I FIRMLY DISAGREE.  By taking that approach,
you are going back years in time when the ONLY O/S you would support was
OS/2!!! That answer was a non-starter, which you soon realilzed when you
started into the MS and Windows arena back in the mid 1990's.  Once you
decide to support Windows, you have GOT to keep up.  I go to IBM to buy the
computer, and the only option they have is to sell me a PC that is
non-supported with their own software??? I don't think that one gets off the
ground.  And I agree that the BEST thing for IBM to do is  to, at the very
least, keep up with the latest version of what Microsoft has to offer, but
that doesn't allow you to bypass what Microsoft has mass-released to the
marketplace as their O/S-de-jour.  Often, when buying PCs, you JUST DON'T
HAVE A CHOICE for the O/S, as I said above.  I beseach you, IBM, PLEASE to
support ME.  Also, when I made my calls to IBM on the above issue, I was
assured that indeed IBM WOULD be supporting WinME for WDT/400.  I expect IBM
to keep to their word.

Thanks,

Ric LuBell

-----Original Message-----
From: Claudio Gaiardi [mailto:claudio.gaiardi@GMINFORMATICA.IT]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 5:20 AM
To: CODE400-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: CODE Designer woes


Ric,

I don't expect at all that either ourselves or Ibm will keep to try
following MS from release to release, since MS itself is very often not able
to do that.

WinME was heavily targeted from MS to home computing -they initially
underestimated both W2K hw real requirements and avalilability delay-, and
is not Ibm fault if some customer actually use it at work.

I know tens of companies extremely "disappointed" for these kind of
problems: their focus is not exactly in wasting time and money to try a
product work on a new MS release. Why should the WDT/400 4.5.1 team actually
invest on WinME rather than on the next WinXP? There are rumors about
radical changes even in IE (after v.6).

Deploying desktops preloaded with the last MS version is not the right
policy for a company.

Better to stay (why not two or three years?) on the actual release (i.e: the
last where you are able to run safely your preferred tools and solutions). A
large -multinational- customer of mine took two years ago a decision to
stay -worlwide- on win95, and they all are happily running their true
business.

More, I'd rather pleased to learn Ibm to invest on porting WDT/400 on Linux
...

Regards.

Claudio Gaiardi




----- Original Message -----
From: "Ric A. LuBell" <rlubell@iointernational.com>
To: <CODE400-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 12:48 AM
Subject: RE: CODE Designer woes


> Phil,
>
> I believe what it means is "IBM does not support Windows ME for WDT400".
I
> have been "told" that this is not a permanent condition, but I have seen
no
> signs of it changing as of yet.  Very frustrating to get answers like this
> when almost all new computers being sold are coming with WinME factory
> installed and, for that PARTICULAR Windows operating system, there is NO
> upgrade to the "supported" O/S of Windows 2000 or NT, and there is no
> "downgrade" [who would want to] to Win98!  Apparently the only way I will
> ever get WDT400 installed is to flatten the PC, buy a NEW version of
> Windows2000, and start from scratch... a MOST UNDESIRABLE concept.
Anyway,
> maybe IBM will decide to support it soon... Ric LuBell
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Groschwitz [mailto:sublime78ska@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 11:30 PM
> To: CODE400-L@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: CODE Designer woes
>
>
> All,
>
> I'm trying out Code Designer for the first time.  It
> is the version that came with the WDT/400 cd's.
>
> I have a 833 mhz pc with 256mb ram running windows Me.
>
> I opened up an existing printer file.  By the time I
> added all the records to the screen, I got a windows
> message saying I was out of memory.
>
> I rebooted and now can't open a printer file.  I found
> these error messages:
>
> CODEDSU2.EXE VDEConnectXCB:Error allocation memory for
> alias
> Unable to load communications support DLL(s)
> FVDCVCC9.DLL
> EVFCTCPD.EXE retryRequestUidPwd: the element specified
> not found in the security collection.
>
> Anyone know what this means?
>
> tia,
> Phil
>
>
>
>
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