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Yep. 100% agree. We are still finding problems with 6.04 and getting
BMR's issued for them. Our company tends to do things in such a way that
people never really anticipated or even used an advertised feature. Code
that is decades old, especially in complex systems, will have bugs found
for very detailed (and sometimes very generic) use cases for a long long
time.


Thanks
Bryce Martin
Programmer/Analyst I
570-546-4777



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My point of view is that no programmer is perfect and no test process
eliminate all errors. We had numerous occasions where a program came up
with an error, if we did not have the source code nobody would know why
the error occurred.

Jan Roodt

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From: bpcs-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bpcs-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
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To: BPCS ERP System
Subject: Re: [BPCS-L] LX Source Code Non-inclusion

I got this post from someone who wishes to remain anonymous:

My advice to him is that if he has an old master contract stating that
they purchased both source and object code he should push back as much as
he is able to get them to continue providing source code. Infor's Plan B
is to allow you to have the source code but charge a licensing fee every
two years (with maintenance annually, based on the full 2-year license
fee... I still can't understand the logic of that). Push back again, I
say. They will also put language in the contract that virtually
eliminates your ability to go to a third party company for programming
because you cannot allow any non-employee to have access to the source. On
that point, I have been led to believe that you can get some kind of
third-party access agreement, or a non-disclosure agreement, for your
third party to sign but it may cost you money. Some cases I've heard of,
it was quite a lot of money.


Rob Berendt
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Dept 1600
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Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
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Kendallville, IN 46755
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From: Bill <brobins3d@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bpcs-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 09/02/2011 12:42 PM
Subject: [BPCS-L] LX Source Code Non-inclusion
Sent by: bpcs-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



In our negotiations with Infor regarding upgrading to LX, I was
surprised to hear that the source code is normally no longer provided to
licensees. To me this sounds like a gigantic hindrance but maybe I'm
misunderstanding the impact of this non-inclusion.

Can I hear from some of you on LX as to your feelings to this policy?
How has it hindered you? Have you even been negatively affected by not
being able to get to the "guts" of the programs?

Bill

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