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Without enhancing the system the it is not possible to set the invoice
number the same as the BOL/List number.

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[mailto:bpcs-l-bounces+dsweeney=phoenixbcinc.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:46 AM
To: bpcs-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [BPCS-L] RE: Invoice numbers

How do you set the invoice numbers to be the BOL/Packlist numbers?  When
BPCS was installed here about 6 years ago -- they set it up with using
the ACR160 Document Sequence Maintenance -- at each year end have to go
in and update each prefix code.  We would really like to use the
packlist/BOL as that is what most customers pay from rather than our
invoice #.  How do we switch and what are the ramifications?

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   1. RE: Invoice numbers - v. 405CD (Tom Sult)
   2. RE: Invoice numbers - v. 405CD (Moy, Bill)
   3. Re: Invoice numbers - v. 405CD (Al Mac)
   4. RE: Invoice numbers - v. 405CD (DeeDee Virgei)
   5. Re: Invoice numbers - v. 405CD (Al Mac)
   6. Re: ECM Special Charge Lines (Luczak Enterprises, Inc.)
   7. Re: ECM Special Charge Lines (Gina Algarotti)
   8. MRP calculation and Net Change versus Regenerative
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message: 1
date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 17:16:48 -0500
from: "Tom Sult" <Tom.Sult@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [BPCS-L] Invoice numbers - v. 405CD

Roger,
Check and see if SIH records with a record ID of IX are retained; I was
able to account for all of my resupplys.

Tom
 

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[mailto:bpcs-l-bounces+tom.sult=bwaycorp.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Roger.Henady@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:48 PM
To: SSA's BPCS ERP System
Subject: [BPCS-L] Invoice numbers - v. 405CD

The auditors have asked for a list of invoices.    They are testing the 
internal controls verifying the invoice sequence numbering.    I ran a 
query of SIH.    I'm missing Order type 9 - resupply orders.   They
don't 
affect sales  ---  no SIH record.       In ECH there is an invoice
number, 
   this is the last invoice against this order.    If multi-shippments 
were made on the resupply order - there is only one number retained. 

Any Ideas?

Roger Henady
Thorco Industries
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message: 2
date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 16:20:53 -0600 
from: "Moy, Bill" <bill.moy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [BPCS-L] Invoice numbers - v. 405CD

Roger,

        We are on 6.1 we do not use resuppy orders. Just a thought,
using
system settings, our invoice number matches the packing slip number, if
your
system does the same (my guess is yes, since your using invoice number
when
billing is not effected). You can get the packing group number from the
load
files LLH, LLL.

Bill Moy  

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 3:48 PM
To: SSA's BPCS ERP System
Subject: [BPCS-L] Invoice numbers - v. 405CD

The auditors have asked for a list of invoices.    They are testing the 
internal controls verifying the invoice sequence numbering.    I ran a 
query of SIH.    I'm missing Order type 9 - resupply orders.   They
don't 
affect sales  ---  no SIH record.       In ECH there is an invoice
number, 
   this is the last invoice against this order.    If multi-shippments 
were made on the resupply order - there is only one number retained. 

Any Ideas?

Roger Henady
Thorco Industries
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message: 3
date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 16:26:33 -0600
from: Al Mac <macwheel99@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [BPCS-L] Invoice numbers - v. 405CD

We are also 405 CD ... we send out resupply orders the same way we ship 
customer orders, and this creates a "B" transaction in the ITH inventory

history file.  You might take a look at whether there is info there that

can help you ... for us, this happens BEFORE the Billing, when the
invoice 
# would not yet exist, but it might be a way for you to get a report of 
resupply activity to supplement the invoice history requested by the
auditors.

First off, you might inform the auditors that there is traffic through
BPCS 
where there is no invoice involved, or the invoice # is "out of 
sequence"  as a normal practice... consider for example BIL600 billing 
adjustments, RMA credits, and as you noticed resupply orders are for 
inventory to be used INTERNALLY while Billing invoices are for sales to 
OUTSIDE customers, so there are no invoices for INTERNAL transfers ...
it 
makes no sense to do a bill to yourself then have to pay it through A/P.

Will INV510 permit you to TRANSFER inventory between facilities without 
going through resupply orders?  Do the auditors need to know about 
inventory transfers between facilities?

When you looking at SIH and SIL also consider "special charges" as
opposed 
to inventory shipped.

Data in ECH is unreliable for auditor tracking, considering that
customer 
orders can "go away" any number of ways, some of them pretty rapidly
after 
closure.  You might consider reviewing Customer Order Change Tracking
software.

Second, inform the auditors that BPCS has fields in the system
parameters 
to keep track of the last # used in various systems ... customer orders,

shop orders, invoices, and so forth, and that there is a way to reset
those 
#s, the intention being that perhaps at year end, or after a physical 
inventory, there is a need to restart at 1 if you not need to go thru
all 
999,999 numbers available, but when a company does this, and still has 
history on the last time a number was assigned for a different purpose, 
there is all kinds of misleading results you can get.

We have a problem with shipping delivery ticket #s where we can end up
with 
multiple shipments same tracking #, multiple invoices same tracking #, 
multiple tracking #s one invoice, other combinations.

There are opportunities for embezzlement that I am not going to spell
out 
here.  If a person identifies themselves to me as an ERP auditor, and I
am 
pretty sure they are for real, and not someone posing as one, then I can

brief them on some of the areas where BPCS is particularly vulnerable to

embezzlement, and what they can be looking for to see if a company has
done 
a responsible job of protecting against that possibility.  This invoice
# 
checking deal seems very superficial to me, like your auditors don't
have a 
clue what is important.

Not that I do it, but it would be very easy for me to have the company
send 
$ value stuff to the address of a confederate, and have the BPCS files
say 
something entirely different, and if all auditors are doing is checking 
that the invoice #s have nothing missing in sequence and the $ adds up, 
then they would never catch me.  A company's safety lies in the honesty
of 
its staff, not in the competence of using auditors who are not familiar 
with BPCS.

>The auditors have asked for a list of invoices.    They are testing the
>internal controls verifying the invoice sequence numbering.    I ran a
>query of SIH.    I'm missing Order type 9 - resupply orders.   They
don't
>affect sales  ---  no SIH record.       In ECH there is an invoice
number,
>    this is the last invoice against this order.    If multi-shippments
>were made on the resupply order - there is only one number retained.
>
>Any Ideas?
>
>Roger Henady
>Thorco Industries




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message: 4
date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 17:45:54 -0500
from: "DeeDee Virgei" <DeeDee.Virgei@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [BPCS-L] Invoice numbers - v. 405CD

We've satisfied auditors in the past w/ copies of the invoices... We've
customized BPCS billing, capturing the invoice spool files on a flat
file that we sent out to burn on CD...  Every invoices # is then
accounted for on the CDs.  I'm hoping this is good enough for our next
audit coming up.  I know that times have changed w/ SOX...

Good luck.

DeeDee Virgei
Project Leader

Nelson Stud Welding, Inc. 

 -----Original Message-----
From:   bpcs-l-bounces+deedee.virgei=nelsonstud.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bpcs-l-bounces+deedee.virgei=nelsonstud.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx]  On
Behalf Of Roger.Henady@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent:   Monday, March 07, 2005 4:48 PM
To:     SSA's BPCS ERP System
Subject:        [BPCS-L] Invoice numbers - v. 405CD

The auditors have asked for a list of invoices.    They are testing the 
internal controls verifying the invoice sequence numbering.    I ran a 
query of SIH.    I'm missing Order type 9 - resupply orders.   They
don't 
affect sales  ---  no SIH record.       In ECH there is an invoice
number, 
   this is the last invoice against this order.    If multi-shippments 
were made on the resupply order - there is only one number retained. 

Any Ideas?

Roger Henady
Thorco Industries
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message: 5
date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 16:47:21 -0600
from: Al Mac <macwheel99@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [BPCS-L] Invoice numbers - v. 405CD

Another thought

If you are like us
(a) there are "B" transactions for shipments in which there is no 
corresponding SIL detail line because either it is a resupply order or
it 
is a repair outside of BPCS ... for example "shipping made this mistake
... 
we did not REALLY ship this stuff to that customer ... please VOID the 
transaction before it gets billed"
(b) there are SIL transactions for billing shipments in which there is
no 
corresponding "B" transaction ... for example the shipping printer was 
malfunctioning and they in a rush to get product out door, so they used
a 
handwritten paperwork outside of BPCS ... be careful matching this since

BIL600 creates a dummy customer "order" unrelated to the order on which
the 
shipment "really" belonged.

Well IBM documents 3 ways that you can do MATCH and NO MATCH with 
query/400, and I figured out some other ways.

Anyhow with link type 3 you can list all records in primary file that
have 
no match in secondary file ... so find something to link on such as date
of 
transaction and customer order # and item # that got shipped, then you
can 
get a list of "B" transactions that had no corresponding invoice, and 
invoices that had no corresponding "B" transaction (2 lists).

Also if you are like us and using auditors a bit smarter than I
speculated 
in my last e-mail, there might be value in identifying "B" transactions 
whose data not agree with the subsequent invoices, because in our case
we 
make a LOT of corrections between BPCS steps.

>We are also 405 CD ... we send out resupply orders the same way we ship

>customer orders, and this creates a "B" transaction in the ITH
inventory 
>history file.  You might take a look at whether there is info there
that 
>can help you ... for us, this happens BEFORE the Billing, when the
invoice 
># would not yet exist, but it might be a way for you to get a report of

>resupply activity to supplement the invoice history requested by the
auditors.




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message: 6
date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 17:24:58 -0500
from: "Luczak Enterprises, Inc." <luczakent@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [BPCS-L] ECM Special Charge Lines

ECM calls base BPCS objects so that if you are trying to enter a special
line it should process it the same way as it would if you enter it
manually. I believe in ORD700 you need a quantity on special items and I
do know that typically I have entered a quantity with any special lines
that I have posted with ECM, so try putting the quantity of 1 in OLQTYO
and see if that helps you.

Regards,

Brian Luczak

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  date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:57:23 -0500
  from: "Gina Algarotti" <Ginaa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  subject: [BPCS-L] ECM Special Charge Lines

  I'm having some problems passing special lines thru ECM. 
  EDI is on version 3.2 release 1 and BPCS is Ver 6 release 2.
  I've been to the archive were I've found the fields that I should be
using.

  OLPRM = *SPECIAL
  OLITN  = *BLANK
  OLVNI = *Blank
  OLID1 =  CHARGE
  OLQTO = 0
  OLOVP = 300
  OLRLK = BA

  I created another line with the same info as a product line except for
the above fields. 
  It errors because the quantity is 0.  What am I missing? 

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message: 7
date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:51:48 -0500
from: "Gina Algarotti" <Ginaa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [BPCS-L] ECM Special Charge Lines

I've tried that. It comes back with "Invalid Item Number". 



thanks
Gina



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message: 8
date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:01:46 +0100
from: Hans.G.LOEF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
subject: [BPCS-L] MRP calculation and Net Change versus Regenerative

We are running BPCS V 6.1 GA without any BMR but with a lot of own 
modifications but the MRP programs haven't been touched by this 
modifications.

We are (once more) intending to improve the MRP usage of our BPCS. In 
general the MRP works well if all parameter / conditions are properly
set 
up.


First issue:
Currently we face the following issue. Our central sourcing dept. would 
like to use only annual purchase order for raw metals e.g. a huge
quantity 
to supply the yearly demand in one PO line on one due date. 
I did some tests in our TRAINING environment and BPCS MRP is reacting as

follows (depending on stock situation) if the 

PO is settled up for Jan 1st. the requirements are decreasing the PO 
quantity through the year, and there is no other MRP action.
PO is settled up for Dec. 31st. the projected on hand is going negative 
until the PO due date is reached, and there is also no other MRP action.

PO is settled up with PO line per period (weekly/monthly) the projected 
stock on hand will be balanced per due date of the PO lines, but there
is 
no MRP message.

Following our expericend from shop order/planned order I was expecting 
that some MRP messages e.g. Cancel, De-expedite, Expedite, LT Violation,

Past Due or Release.  But none of them came up after the MRP calculation

run (MRP600) for the P.O. mentioned before.
-- the PO have been created via PUR152 as scheduled ones for raw
material.

Secondly:
The difference between Net Change and Regenerative is that only items 
which need to be re-planned are treated during the Net Change. For me
the 
result should be the same. If there is any need to change, the MRP will 
propose to act. The difference might be that "R" will crate new records
in 
KFP/KMR and "N" will keep those which haven't any different order/demand

situation as before and I guess that this is implicated by the Activity 
flag (see MRP300) or am I wrong.

Thanks for any tip/advice concerning the above.

rgds/mfg
Hans-Georg Loef
Impress
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