RE: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date Questions

Thanks Chick, your first paragraph describes exactly what I'm seeing in
testing. I'm just not sure how we should get it to back the LRDTE up one
day. I could do it with Move days, but that means every router of every item
(we use a lot of muliple routers for the same part). It would be quite a
project and require a LOT of ongoing maintenance.

Paul

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From: bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of Chick Doe
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:44 PM
To: bpcs-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date Questions


if i remember properly we ran into a problem with lead times. when mrp (and
probably mps) du their planning they use the 'lead time' to determine when
the components are due. but when you actual create a shop order sfc500
calculates the due date based upon the shop order due date and the run,
setup, move, and queue hours in the routing. this caused us some major
discrepancies where mrp was planning components for one due date and then
suddenly that due date changed once the real shop order was cut.

i know we went through an effort to try to synchronize planning lead times
to real routing lead times, but that was some time ago and it's probably out
of snyc again. perhaps this is one contributor to the 200+ page mrp
exception reports.

as far as the mrp exception reports go they are too voluminous. we wrote our
own summary version with a filter in it. if we set the filter to 10 days,
they won't report any reschedules that mrp is recommending that are 10 days
or less from the existing order due date. (mrp stores it's recommended
reschedule date in the FSO and HPH files and you can easily access this and
the current due date to write you own reports.

chick doe
barton instrument systems

>>> laflammep@kennedydc.com 12/11/02 02:15PM >>>
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Hi Judi,

To clarify my question - should a lead time set on the end item for an item
master (IIM) (not planning by facility) effect the MPS planning for an MPS
item? What I'm seeing is that once I say an item is an MPS item using the M
code on the Item Master (IIM) the system will not consider the lead time
field in the item master. Instead, it looks solely at the BOM and Router to
determine when a particular shop order must be started to finish when
needed. Now if my BOM components of that end item have lead times, the
system may be factoring that in - I didn't get that far yet.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:bpcs-l-admin@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of Judi Svoboda
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:38 PM
To: bpcs-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date Questions


Paul, if I understand the question, lead time days is for purchased as
well as manufactured items.  If you have different levels in your BOM
need to enter the lead time for each level according to actual time to
produce plus wait move and queue.  Judi Svoboda Ridewell

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul LaFlamme [mailto:laflammep@kennedydc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:57 AM
To: bpcs-l@midrange.com
Subject: MPS - Customer Demand and General ECL Date Questions


We're using BPCS V405CD(ptf2) and getting ready to begin using MPS/MRP.
We're a discrete order job shop Die Cast manufacturer (Order Policy H on
MPS
items) and will rely on Customer Orders to drive the MPS.

I see that it is the LRDTE field (Request Date) in ECL (Order line file)
that feeds to the MPS.  The order entry department will back the transit
(shipping) time from our shipping dock to the customer's location and
enter
that date in the LRDTE field.

The challenge I have is that Shop order due dates, and planned order due
dates as they appear in the MPS system are the same date as the REQDATE.
This means that the system won't plan the shop orders to be finished
till
some time during the day that the order is supposed to ship out.

Is the REQDATE really meant to be a "Request to complete manufacturing"
or a
"Request to Ship?"

If it is in fact, a request to complete manufacturing, would I simply
back
the date up by one day. I'd love to hear from other BPCS users as to how
their system is communicating customer requirements to manufacturing's
MPS.

Another way I thought I could handle it is by adding a 1 day std move
time
to the last operation. But this would mean changing the router of EVERY
Item
and every alternate router as well.

Lead time is for purchase order items, correct?

Also, how are the Schedule Ship Date LSDTE & Schedule Receive Dates
LSCDT
used by the system? Should these be updated after an MPS committment? If
so,
by whom?

Thank You!

Paul LaFlamme
Manager of MIS
Kennedy Die Castings, Inc.
508-752-5234 X3044

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