Re: SSA Licensing Fees and OGS

[DAsmussen@xxxxxxx]

Ah, Genyphyr,

I was right there with you until this last statement (except for the part
about Al's postings being too darned long, I'm still with you there ;-P).
Part of the reason that this list was formed in the first place, and what
I've tried to dissiminate all along, is that pre-GT SSA wrote contracts that
had more to do with making the sale than with any SSA company policy.  Under
the old regime, some large companies got ripped off, some not so large
companies got ripped off.  Some large companies made out like bandits, some
not so large companies made out like bandits.

Too many people here know my background for me to mention names or even
industries of specific contracts.  I will say that one of my large former
clients paid $X million USD for a quite generous BPCS corporate license.  One
of my _other_ large clients comparably paid $2X million USD for a not so
generous license.  These figures were based largely upon the relative
bargaining abilities of both clients and their respective (old school) SSA
representatives; however, some consideration was given by the old SSA to
their respective industries -- one was growth, the other was shrinking.

Frank discussion of contracts here is _PRECISELY_ one of the reasons this
list was created.  The elimination of contract disparity is of paramount
importance.  I seriously doubt that SSA/GT is continuing this practice, but
we should ensure that the practice does not return...

JMHO,

Dean Asmussen
Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc.
Fuquay-Varina, NC  USA
E-mail:  DAsmussen@aol.com

"Winners never quit, and quitters never win." -- Vince Lombardi

In a message dated 12/28/01 12:19:34 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
novakg@ssax.com writes:

<<snip>>
> Personally, I think this is the wrong place for people to be discussing
>  legal matters about contracts, since contracts are written differently for
>  companies depending on dozens of factors. You should really direct these
>  questions to your SSA Sales representative and go up the management chain
in
>  that department if you still require further clarification. This is the
only
>  way to get an authoritative answer. A lot of what has been said back and
>  forth in this discussion chain is true only for a small amount of
companies,
>  or maybe just their own company, and some statements made are not true at
>  all anymore - I will not be going through each posting on this topic to
>  verify whether or not each and every thing said was or was not something
>  that is still true today -  I am not part of the SSA contracts/sales group,
>  and also Al's postings are very long! ;-)