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Nick You need to schedule some BPCS education for yourself ASAP. Several places offer classes. Your employer should pay for them. You need this because any ERP is complex & this one's on-line documentation is very poorly cross-indexed. It is extremely easy to mess things up when you have only partial knowlege of how the systems are inter-related. For example, no one should make any changes in SYS800 without first thoroughly studying the documentation on the rules involved & making sure everyone who will be affected is fully aware of what is going down. If your employer is unwilling to send you off to one of the BPCS Universities, then the most economical approach is for you to get BPCS reference manuals to supplement was is available on-line, then make an effort to make it to one of the BPCS conventions & user conferences. UPI has a series of manuals aimed at people who manage particular collections of applications, explaining how the system is supposed to work & all the tasks that ought to be run to get the job done right. These are based on UPI's classes. DSL has a Programmer Reference Manual that charts what all the special codes mean in the various files & how the software is interlinked - a navigation guide for the technically oriented. IBM has a Redbook specifically on optimizing AS/400 performance for BPCS. If you are a BPCS security officer, you ought to be able to get to menu DOC & check out what passes for BPCS on-line documentation. I think SSA is nuts for making this accessible only to high security MIS users - it should be easy for any user to access ... I have made it easy for my users by mucking with security rules & offering a short cut menu. For a programmer, once you see where this is stored, PDM is an easier way in. You need to check what place is the provider of BPCS tech support for the shop you just took over & it it is the same place as last year. The guy who fixed the problem might have been doing exactly what the tech support place told him to do & they can tell you the same things. You need to check whether there is any internal documentation on problem solving. At our shop we experience certain problems repeatedly, so we have an indexed document of how to cope the next time it happens, because we cannot expect people to remember the right stuff to do when it is 2 months between same incidents. You also need to figure out if you can make contact with the brains that drained away. I have found in the past when I was in a new job, some contact with the former person now doing my new job was wonderful in explaining some mysteries & also I was able to help the person now doing my old job. I consider this to be part of professional courtesy. Whatever our differences with the fiormer employer that led to parting company, we should help our fellow practicioners. As to your immediate problem, you are on V6 which means you do not have direct access to the source code like we on V4 do. The software is generated by something called AS/Set. A programmer needs to know how to navigate that & it can take a class, just like in any other HLL. In some ways V4 is similar to V6 & in other ways it is alien & the V6 people know the differences. Thus any guidance I can give, from what I have figured out from studying the source code, may not be relevant. On V4, the documents involved in shipping are generated by one humongous ORD570 or ORD590 or something like that program ... if I print out the source code it is OVER 1,000 pages long & every other line is soft code, meaning you have to look up some place else to see what is substituted at execution time. This software in turn calls a dozen other programs of similar sizes. Fortunately, the printing of the shipping documents themselves are very small easily modified programs such that without messing with the flow of the logic, we can tailor what is to print to meet our needs. The data that prints on shipping documents comes from a combination of what is in the customer orders and a rather cumbersome series of steps taken by people in the shipping department. At Central, most of our shipping document errors are caused by humans doing steps in the wrong sequence. For example, some of the steps can be sent to the JOBQ & you have to wait until those steps go to a conclusion before you do next steps. If the JOBQ normally gets the job done really fast, some users, who do not understand multi-processing & multi-user networks, can get in the habit of allowing enough time for a job to get done, then going on to the next step, which mans that when the JOBQ gets backed up, user error messes up the final output. This is why our instructions to our shippers are to do EVERYTHING on-line & we have toyed with notion of a separate JOBQ just for their stuff. We also have cases of poorly trained shipping people. They found out some stuff by experimentation, then taught other people the wrong way. I had a modification request to fix the shipper documents such that they did not need to transcribe shipper address in there. Come to find out that instead of doing the flow of CREATING a shipping document, then modifying it, they were starting with the modifying of a non-existant document, which meant they had to key in everything that automatically goes in when the first step is to create one. If you have someone doing steps in the wrong sequence, or a team of people who collectively are doing their steps in the wrong order, that could create shipping documents with missing addresses. We have a manual for our shippers that spells out step by step, with example screen prints, what they have to do. It is not a simple straightforward process like it was on our BPCS before AS400. I can't help you with EDI ... we abandoned ours several years ago. There is also extensive archives of this discussion group, with search engine for where topics have come up in the past that can be very helpful. http://archive.midrange.com/bpcs-l/index.htm When your topic of interest is not specific to BPCS, you can go to the main archive & do a SEARCH ALL. One thing I do not know, & need to find out is, if I can steer co-workers who are not subscribing to BPCS-L to the archives & have the search engine work for people who are not involved in the list that has the answers. MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac) AS/400 Data Manager & Programmer for BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 mixed mode (twinax interactive & batch) @ http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical sub-assemblies - fax # 812-424-6838 +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +---
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