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We have also successfully migrated, although that was prior to SSA's current round of troubles. We have a valid BPCS license. Our license grants us a permanent irrevocable right to use the software. Our license is user based, although a key is required. We have migrated several times, and SSA never once refused us a new permanent key. Never charged us for it, either. We did negotiate a new license a few migrations back, moving from processor based to user based licensing, and we did pay for that. Since then, we have migrated and were not charged for a key. Although I expected (and was prepared) to pay a modest administrative or handling fee for issuing the key and sending the fax and so forth, I was not charged at all. OGS never entered into the picture, nor would it. Our license does not require that we maintain any kind of a support contract. Thus far, I see no reason to expect that this behavior on SSA's part would change. It is true that legally Gores may not have to honor current contracts (including license agreements). It should be noted, however, that Gores has done this before and I know of no instance in which they have refused to honor a license agreement. I would hope that those SSA personnel monitoring this list might kick the question up to Gores and ask them to issue some sort of position statement. It is also true that when you buy trouble, you get what you pay for. If I am ever faced with the issue of migrating to a new machine and whatever remains of SSA refuses to issue me a new permanent key, I will break the key logic and proceed with the migration. Such action wouldn't be illegal, and under the circumstances it would not constitute a breach of contract. I won't suffer any moral qualms about it, either. In the mean time, I will run my business and not worry about it. At least at our installation, BPCS isn't broke, and I see no reason to fix it. --Chris +----------------------------------------------------- Christopher J. Devous Director of Systems Development The Antigua Group mailto:cdevous@antigua.com http://www.antigua.com Warning: All e-mail sent to or from this address will be received or otherwise recorded by The Antigua Group, Inc.'s corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. +----------------------------------------------------- On Thursday, October 12, 2000 08:49, Savoy, Gregg [SMTP:SavoyG@troycorp.com] wrote: > I am a V404 user and just negotiated moving BPCS from a Model 300 CISC to a > Model 270 RISC machine. Although we would have preferred to pay nothing > (which is not practical), we agreed on a reasonable figure for the move. My > only problem is how the tiers are defined. I cannot control that moving to > a current machine (lowest end 270) that will provide my company with the > longest possible life of the hardware also gives me a machine that has more > power than my old one. I still have the same number of users and the same > applications, even though the machine has more capabilities. > > The bottom line is we successfully negotiated (for the second time) moving > to a new machine without OGS and with a reasonable cost. > > Gregg E Savoy > Director Information Technology > Troy Corporation > > -----Original Message----- +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +---
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