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  • Subject: RE: Is it possible to crack the BPCS Key logic?
  • From: "Christopher J. Devous" <cdevous@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:28:21 -0700
  • Organization: The Antigua Group

We have also successfully migrated, although that was prior to SSA's 
current round of troubles.

We have a valid BPCS license.  Our license grants us a permanent 
irrevocable right to use the software. Our license is user based,  although 
a key is required.  We have migrated several times, and SSA never once 
refused us a new permanent key.  Never charged us for it, either.  We did 
negotiate a new license a few migrations back, moving from processor based 
to user based licensing, and we did pay for that.  Since then, we have 
migrated and were not charged for a key. Although I expected (and was 
prepared) to pay a modest administrative or handling fee for issuing the 
key and sending the fax and so forth, I was not charged at all.  OGS never 
entered into the picture, nor would it.  Our license does not require that 
we maintain any kind of a support contract.

Thus far, I see no reason to expect that this behavior on SSA's part would 
change.

It is true that legally Gores may not have to honor current contracts 
(including license agreements).  It should be noted, however, that Gores 
has done this before and I know of no instance in which they have refused 
to honor a license agreement.   I would hope that those SSA personnel 
monitoring this list might kick the question up to Gores and ask them to 
issue some sort of position statement.

It is also true that when you buy trouble, you get what you pay for.

If I am ever faced with the issue of migrating to a new machine and 
whatever remains of SSA refuses to issue me a new permanent key, I will 
break the key logic and proceed with the migration.  Such action wouldn't 
be illegal, and under the circumstances it would not constitute a breach of 
contract.  I won't suffer any moral qualms about it, either.  In the mean 
time, I will run my business and not worry about it.  At least at our 
installation, BPCS isn't broke, and I see no reason to fix it.

--Chris
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Christopher J. Devous
Director of Systems Development
The Antigua Group
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On Thursday, October 12, 2000 08:49, Savoy, Gregg 
[SMTP:SavoyG@troycorp.com] wrote:
> I am a V404 user and just negotiated moving BPCS from a Model 300 CISC to 
a
> Model 270 RISC machine.  Although we would have preferred to pay nothing
> (which is not practical), we agreed on a reasonable figure for the move. 
 My
> only problem is how the tiers are defined.  I cannot control that moving 
to
> a current machine (lowest end 270) that will provide my company with the
> longest possible life of the hardware also gives me a machine that has 
more
> power than my old one.  I still have the same number of users and the 
same
> applications, even though the machine has more capabilities.
>
> The bottom line is we successfully negotiated (for the second time) 
moving
> to a new machine without OGS and with a reasonable cost.
>
> Gregg E Savoy
> Director Information Technology
> Troy Corporation
>
> -----Original Message-----

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